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In Reply to: RE: Sicko...Moore's best film... posted by RGA on July 12, 2007 at 16:40:50
I watched the Gupta debate and the preceding Blitzer interviews. Moore didn't seem all too prepared and became a quivering mound of jelly, eventually stammering out an apology to Blitzer/CNN. Gupta conducted himself professionally but was equally slippery on his numbers. In the end, it was no more worthwhile than watching two wankers go back and forth on a message board.
I seriously doubt we'll ever see socialized medicine in the states. Does anyone honestly think they'll shut down a multi-billion dollar health insurance industry and hand it over to our government? End result out of all this (at best) is that we'll see hard core bureaucratic government regulations on HMO profit on which the HMO's will have their lobbyists get snuggly loopholes inserted. We're all fucked unless we are in the upper 20% of the nation's income.
Meanwhile, it's the 21st century, why the hell is the health industry dragging their feet on the digitization of basic medical paperwork?
Tom §.
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I think that he is speaking to something lying underneath the issue. A lack of empathy and a fear of the government that other countries don't exhibit to this extent. I don;t think Moore is playing with the numbers and to be frank the numbers are secondary to the main issue. Whether it is $5k or $7K (and it's in there somewhere) it's too freaking high either way.
So the issue becomes - wait times -- Gupta conceded the point. The wait times are faster in the US for elective surgery BECAUSE 1/4 of the population is rejected. That will speed up the line. Moore made the point and Gupta conceded it.
But what both did not mention is that in Canada the emergency goes first and the elective goes second for a doctor's time. In the US the money goes first so Paris Hilton will get the toe nail fixed before the homeless person gets his heart surgery.
The point of any film or novel or art is to bring up social conscience and try to get people to act. Moore is doing his job - where are the Americans who are not doing their's?
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