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Giant disagreement about Cooper: he projects an INNER

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tinear

In Reply to: RE: Your "quibbles" are... posted by afilado on August 20, 2007 at 11:31:42

power, intelligence, and cunning, all without scenery-chewing.
See "Lone Star" and see how he can carry an excellent film.
I didn't find "Breach" slick, either, and was pleased the direction seemed to "flow," not calling attention to itself. Actually, it was somewhat like a play, to me.
Anyhow, I found Burton only excelled in "Spy:" no other film roles of his I recall similarly hit the high notes.
His "Hamlet," which I have on record, is superb...

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I disagree... - afilado 18:59:37 08/20/07 (1)
..that we have a giant disagreement. ;-)

LOL.

My remarks were made as singular response to your question about why "Breach" didn't have boxoffice legs. They weren't meant to frame any sort of comparison of careers or performances. I really don't think such comparisons are useful.

If you'll reread my comments about Cooper you'll see little but compliments. I didn't say he couldn't carry a movie; I said he could not alone carry "Breach" to the commercial success you brought into discussion. Big difference. And no grounds for "....Giant disagreement".

I'm not sure what you're saying about Burton. You say he excelled ONLY in "..Spy..", yet continue that "Hamlet" is superbe. Are you making a distinction between his film and stage performances?

Oddly, Burton in film was erratic. But, his career spanned 4 decades and 80-100 films. Altogether formidable. Stage, TV, public life....he did it all. You don't think he showed well in "...Virginia Wolfe" or "Night of The Iguana"? One of my favorite roles for him was in "The Medusa Touch".

Another "shortcoming" for "Breach", I believe, was the perspective from which the story unfolded. That of the Phillipe character. As a consequence, he became the defacto lead, casting Cooper's role into a slightly awkward distance.

What is this film story about? The clarity of the answer to that question is lacking in the telling. The story as told is a dilution of its powerful elements, not a concentration.

Hell, the story is Hansen. Period. And it was not successfully told, Cooper's performance notwithstanding.

As I said earlier its "failure" as a commercial success is its failure to translate the power of the real story to the screen. It did not sufficienly engage the imagination of its audience. Some wise film lover once told me that film is life. This film lacked sufficient life.

Welcome back, tin. Your comments from the road brought back wonderful memories from Jolly Old.

I sent you a package. I trust you received it. Thanks again.
- Your points are all valid. I had forgotten "Iguana" and "Woolfe," yet - tinear 04:40:21 08/21/07 (0)
  must, in my defense, point out that these really are filmed plays: Rich never seemed able to do much in less speaky roles.
  Got the package.
  When you've "rested," let me know if you're up for a devastating Brasilian social/political satire comedy which makes anything Bunuel served up seem benign. The screen on my tv almost melted from the acid. "Chronically Unfeasible" is a classic which only could have been made by a Brasilian.

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