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In Reply to: RE: A few other problems: Yes, a hero or group of them posted by tinear on January 27, 2008 at 06:13:28
>>> "After being attacked in the tunnel, the guy in the lead marches around with no weapon. Guess he read ahead and knew he wouldn't be attacked for several more scenes?" <<<
It's called shock.
>>> "Super chicks: in police films, we're used to cops taking massive hits and keepin' on tickin' but this isn't that genre. A girl has a long piece of REBAR penetrate from her back through her shoulder and then has it pulled out... and she puts a jacket on and carries on, even running? How about the one that gets gnawed on like a taco and also just keeps right on goin?'"
Again, shock. She wasn't a "super chick" by any means, but folks in real life who have been impaled have somehow survived to walk or run around for a time pumped up on adrenaline. While it does look implausible, it only stretches credulity in the truth is stranger than fiction category.
>>> "And... what's with the exploding bit? Did it slip an IED into her?" <<<
Her blood was infected with a some kind of unfamiliar fast acting parasite or disease that acted similar to a hyped up version of ebola; did you not notice the medical team suited up in enviro-hazard gear?
>>> "Films are good because they create a believable film world unto themselves: this one didn't." <<<
While I agree with the first part of that statement, I just happen to adamantly disagree with your conclusions in regard to this film.
>>> "The big creature seemed to be reptilian or amphibian whereas the small ones obviously were arachnid." <<<
Not at all that obvious (maybe you should go back and catch the film again or wait for the DVD). These creatures were all reptilian, or rather amphibian, but not familiar; these were very alien looking creatures. While the mass shedding of small offspring seems to lend itself toward arachnid behavior this has it's roots in natural science; various species, including some fish hold their offspring close and release them when they mature or as advantageous to their survival.
>>> "Lastly, all the girls and boys pretty much visually were interchangeable, except for length of hair." <<<
They were people, as opposed to stereotypes; maybe you prefer more overt designations, but it was interesting to observe how each of these folks reacted in the heat of a crisis.
>>> "As I said, the FX were good..." <<<
I agree, but if that's all you got out of this film, then that's faint praise.
Respectfully (a differing viewpoint),
AuPh
Follow Ups:
I had a holiday job in a confectionary factory when I was in high school. One of my jobs was to staple up the shipping cartons, cartons that held a bulk amount of packaged confectionary. The staples were those big brass staples you see in the cartons a lot of audio/HT gear comes in.
One day my right index finger got in the way and I put a staple all the way through it. It went in through the nail and came out the other side, luckily missing the bone. I remember looking at my finger with some interest at the time and then walking out to the boss' office to say that I had a problem. No screams or anything, no pain. I just looked and then walked and spoke to the boss as if we were having a casual chat. While my finger certainly wasn't worrying me, I remember thinking it seemed to worry him a little excessively at the time.
I was taken to the local hospital's emergency unit, 3 or 4 blocks down the road where they looked at me and told me to wait. 45 minutes later, with no treatment, they decided to deal with me. I was still having no pain. They gave me an injection of local anaesthetic into the finger but put it in too close to the base of the finger to numb the tip. Things started to hurt at that stage so they then gave me a second injection closer to the tip, waited for that to take effect, then removed the staple. I think if they had seen me immediately and not let me wait for 45 minutes, they could have removed the staple without anaesthetic. I also wonder whether one effect of the anaesthetic was to reduce the amount of 'protection' I was getting from shock and, paradoxically, trigger the return of pain given that they put the first injection in too far away to actually numb the finger tip where the staple was.
A staple isn't a piece of structural steel and a finger isn't a shoulder, but shock is surprisingly effective at shutting out pain and letting you function reasonably well. It's a protective mechanism so that shouldn't be surprising. If the best thing the brain can do to get you out of a situation alive is to kill pain while leaving you on your feet and moving, it can certainly do so. You do feel a little disconnected from what's going on, as I certainly did, but that's probably a plus as well.
I suspect this particular incident in Cloverfield was a bit extreme as an example but I think it is certainly within the realm of possibility. Provided there was no significant blood loss, and there may not have been while the steel was embedded so the only real blood loss would come when the person was lifted off the steel spike and that was dealt with on screen, then I think the person could keep functioning for quite a while but they would come to a stop hard when there was a pressure let off. I think that would have occurred when they reached the evac site and I think the girl would probably have crashed out on getting into the helicopter. I think her level of functioning after the helicopter crash is much less plausible than her level of functioning between her rescue and their arrival at the evac site.
David Aiken
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