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In Reply to: RE: There will be no next time. I got it the first time. posted by Analog Scott on August 26, 2011 at 20:59:55
obviously were different from mine: I didn't expect a serious film about drug manufacturing and animal testing. I found the premise interesting enough to drive the resulting picture. I found the center of the picture, the bonding of the scientist and the ape, to be a welcome departure from the average such story. Falco was excellent in making the relationship sincere. THAT is what added something missing from almost all summer fare: a heart. I also found the orangutan and the gorilla "characters" to be developed enough so I cared for them--- yet another departure from the usual 1-dimensional Hollywood characterizations. The story was enough to keep one interested in between the action parts. In other words, it wasn't a non-stop 2 hours of FX with mega-decibel soundtrack concussions.
As far as the originals: they were hokey, boring.
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My expectations of any genre movie is that they make specific demands on my suspension of disbelief and then go about making a movie that works as a narative within the bounds of the premise. This movie failed miserably on every level to do so.
> > I didn't expect a serious film about drug manufacturing and animal testing.> >
Neither did I. If I had *any* expectations it was due to this being basically a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes.
> > I found the premise interesting enough to drive the resulting picture.> >
The premise was lifted from the original movie of which this is a remake. Nothing wrong with that. but let's give credit where credit is due. But they take a good premise from the original work and then take a big crap on it.
> > I found the center of the picture, the bonding of the scientist and the ape, to be a welcome departure from the average such story.> >
I challenge you to find one Ape based scifi movie that does not indulge in this same basic theme. In this movie they do a pretty half ass job and then completely drop the ball with a forced character arc. I just don't buy the arbitrary arc Cesaer goes through. He is supposed to be extremely inteligent and the change of heart is shallow and lacking in any sort of thoughtfulness. It was forced so they could loosely follow the story line of the original movie. In that movie the arc is well set up and makes perfect sense. But that was actually a very smart movie.
> > Falco was excellent in making the relationship sincere. THAT is what added something missing from almost all summer fare: a heart.> >
It was pretty superficial and poorly thought out.
> > I also found the orangutan and the gorilla "characters" to be developed enough so I cared for them--- yet another departure from the usual 1-dimensional Hollywood characterizations.> >
I thought they fit right into the one dimensional characterizations one finds in crap movies. They were nothing more than cliches with digital fur.
> > The story was enough to keep one interested in between the action parts. In other words, it wasn't a non-stop 2 hours of FX with mega-decibel soundtrack concussions.> >
The story, as told in this version, relied to much on stupid cliches to rise above the formulaic crap that you seem to not like.
> > As far as the originals: they were hokey, boring.> >
They were 100 times smarter than this POS. They actually were filled with extraordinary political and social comentary that great scifi often offers when it is at it's best.
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