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In Reply to: RE: Both concepts are brilliantly realized, and totally different. posted by Audiophilander on April 10, 2012 at 23:52:03
does help if there's a tad of relevance: Kat as... Theseus, founder of Athens? Don't think so.
Now, similar doesn't mean equal: both are stories of children reverting to "primitive" behaviors, hunting one another; both are brought to this situation by adult-created circumstances; both portray the struggle of survival at any cost with maintaining some sort of moral compass and conscience.
Of course, comparing the quality of these works, either as book or film, is ludicrous. One is a "young adult's" book, the other a highly lauded novel. And, please, let us not stoop to compare Brook to what's-his-name as directors.
HG is entertainment with a lot of gloss but little substance.
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Keep in mind that a "highly lauded novel" like Lord of the Flies would be classified as young adult literature by today's standards, as are many formerly adult works of fiction by the likes of Asimov, Sturgeon, Heinlein, etc. IMO, Hunger Games was an impressive film that treats it's source material with respect; the acting was uniformly excellent. The novels have been best sellers for good reason and I can certainly see why teens are passionate about the series. While I wouldn't necessarily describe Hunger Games as a masterpiece of fiction or the film as a classic for the ages, they're far more than glossy entertainment with little substance.
I don't always concur with my wife's assessment of books and film treatments, but in respect to this one we're in total agreement. Anecdotally, when I caught an early pre-premier screening of of Hunger Games I happened to be sitting with a group of renowned authors of popular fiction including Rosemary Clement-Moore, Charlaine Harris and my wife, Rachel Caine, all of whom came away from the theater as impressed by the film adaptation of Hunger Games as I did. It's also worth noting that Charlaine's husband and several other friends joining us for this special screening, all of whom fell well outside of the teen demographic, thought that this was a very good film as well.
So tin, I hope you'll understand that while we see eye to eye on many issues over on the Outside Asylum board, the consensus of our party was overwhelmingly positive about this film, in direct contrast to the views you've expressed here.
Ciao,
AuPh
While I see that there could be a comparison to draw between the two works - Lord of the Flies and The Hunger Games; however I would argue that Lord Of The Flies is more comparable to Conrad's Heart of Darknes - Where we all drift with out the "Butcher in the corner shop, and the Bobby on the corner".
Susan Collins has wrought a good trilogy - that is engaging; however it does not have the insight that either Golding or Conrad bring to their works. Additionally both Golding and Conrad are presenting these as cautionary tales of observation. Collins does not address a number of aspects of the dystopia; while this does not detract from the story - it can leave the reader wanting.
I did read the Hunger Games - all three - and saw the Movie -
Unfortunately I never finished the Lord of the Flies in gramer school - though my daughter is reading it now - having read/seen the Hunger Games.
And of course there is the wonderful interpretation of Heart of Darkness - Apocalypse Now...
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