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RE: "It's about specs and physical limitation of the respective formats. "

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Jazz Inmate

In Reply to: RE: "It's about specs and physical limitation of the respective formats. " posted by Jack G on August 20, 2007 at 16:20:22

And how are you going to fit 5.1 channels, let alone 7.1, of lossless PCM on that HD DVD? And don't tell me TrueHD or other compressed PCM algorithms sound the same as lossless, because I've heard the difference.

If the BD of Prestige is 37 GB and the HD DVD is 23 GB, there is significant data missing in the HD DVD version. I haven't done a comparison and you have, so I have to go with your assessment that it looks the same. Does it sound the same? Do you really think 14 GB worth of data is inconsequential? Why is the industry even messing around with the lower capacity format?
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RE: "It's about specs and physical limitation of the respective formats. " - Jack G 16:49:15 08/20/07 (1)
> > > And don't tell me TrueHD or other compressed PCM algorithms sound the same as lossless, because I've heard the difference < < <
Yes, I know. a SONY employee compared what SONY uses to its competition, and low and behold, the SONY product came out on top. Big Whoop.
I couldn't care less about 7.1.
Haven't you noticed that more and more Blu-ray discs are coming out with True HD audio? Why do you think that' happening?

> > > Why is the industry even messing around with the lower capacity format? < < <
Maybe because they pay attention to the facts, not the FUD.
Jack
- RE: "It's about specs and physical limitation of the respective formats. " - Jazz Inmate 17:07:35 08/20/07 (0)
  You can't honestly think that it's advantageous or doesn't matter to go with a lower capacity audio/video format over a higher capacity format.
  
  I'm not a Sony employee but I stood there in Dolby Labs and heard for myself. Even with blu-ray, there is not enough room for all content with LPCM and that is why TrueHD is becoming the standard on more titles. Already there are sacrifices being made to fit content on these discs.
  
  We're on a glorified audio website so you can't tell me you don't care about audio, and while you can tell me you don't respect my observations, it isn't really conducive to a conversation about quality, is it?
  
  Again, the Prestige Blu-ray had 14 gigs more data than the HD DVD, by your numbers. What happened to all that data? Is your contention is that it was just wasted, irrelevant content that has no bearing on the product? That's kind of hard to believe.
  
  I do care about 7.1 because I want to be able to hear a movie as the producer and the audio engineers intended. I am going to have to deal with TrueHD for that. Fine. But I don't want to have to keep making compromises like that. The greater the disc capacity, the fewer the compromises.
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