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In Reply to: RE: Thinking of getting a Plasma TV posted by Hornlover on October 07, 2009 at 08:07:37
The blacks are still very noticeably better on the *Elite* Pioneers. Not "all" Pioneers, so should be careful there. Next years models should have the Panasonics just about as good (according to their own declaration, now that Pio is not a competitor), and the year after one would presume better...
That said, IMO/E the Elites are definitely compromised in some ways unless they are used in an ISF mode. This is very clear to me, is not often talked about except in "extreme" enthusiast forums, is easily demonstrated (you sure don't have to "squint" to see it), and there's *nothing* you can do about it until you unlock those modes, or buy a version that has them unlocked (easy/cheap to unlock). Doesn't mean you have to get it calibrated to make it look good, but you really do need to unlock them to have access to all the features and to totally disble all the fixed processing that exists in various combos in all the other modes.
Agree that current plasmas are quite bright. That's not the issue really. The problem is watching them in a bright or especially a naturally-lit room. They are usually no good for that compared to LCD. Especially since the better ones have virtually no anti-reflective glass/coatings (the glass/coatings are kept very thin), that is partly what gives them their better-looking blacks. That is why it's said plasmas are best suited for "controlled lighting" situations, which is not to necessarily mean "dark", but generally means to keep the lighting behind the display.
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We have our plasma in the family room, and during the day it is quite bright in there. There is a sliding glass door on the opposite wall from the set, and a lot of potential glare from it. Even at that, the glare issue isnt nearly as much of a problem as everyone makes it out to be. It certainly isnt any worse than it was with the Sony Wega we replaced. With the set off, you can easily see the reflections from the glass door, but with the set on, it is barely noticable (you have to try to see it). Having a bright room should not be a deterant from getting a plasma set.
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My plasma setup is just like yours: in family room, facing large glass doors (south). The room is the naturally-darkest one in the house, by far. So, way back, the glass door coverings were chosen to allow some light in...I really should replace them with something thicker now that the room is pretty much "dedicated", nobody uses those glass doors much. I can see the daytime glare easily enough on the Pio 151, it has very little anti-reflective coatings. But it is not nearly as bad for glare as the Sony RPTV it replaced; the Sony CRT before that had some kind of etched (??) glass and was darkish so didn't show glare much. I rarely use the display when it's light outside, but in the summer that can mean I won't use it until after like 9:30pm. I get really bothered by glare (and lip-sync issues, and motion artifacts LOL), so I guess people have a different tolerance for it, like everything else. I just thought of this: I usually wear glasses when I watch TV, I'm not sure why, and that *may* make me more sensitive to glare?
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