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In Reply to: RE: My OPPO BDP-83 has developed a couple of bad habits. posted by cfraser on October 20, 2011 at 19:10:35
1) Never saw/heard that. Are you using HDMI for both video and audio?
HDMI video, RCAs audio. But this never used to be a problem.
2) I've seen that too on BDs once in a long while. I've also seen a similar look watching some live HD broadcasts, during panning.
Come to think, you may be correct about that here, too.
[Cont'd] Obviously not the 83 for the latter. So I'm going to guess it's either an artifact of the HD cameras, or of my (your) display. It is something I don't see often though.
A JVC RS-1. Less than a year old. But I *think* the problem is kinda recent.
[Cont'd] The BDs where you see it: do you know if they were created on film or digitally (these days it's often bits of both)? Maybe you can give an educated guess for the scenes when the stutter occurs...maybe we can point the finger at some type of camera. There is no doubt though the human eye can see the natural "stutter" of 24fps, and some people are much more sensitive to it.
First noticed it in gross form on a Pleasantville BD. (For the record, I didn't much care for that movie.) It had to be a film original. But this if not a 24fps problem; what happens is, every second or so the motion stops momentarily, then rejoins the timeline. It's as though some sort of buffer runs out of room and has to recollect itself.
[Cont'd] The thing you don't want to hear is your 83 is crapping out. Almost always, 83 playback problems are the indicator of that, and seem to start with failure to read BDs, then DVDs, then nada...so I'll guess you're OK.
NOOOOOOO! Not that!
And now, only now, it occurs to me that there may be a software update that addresses the situation. I'll go look right now. Again, thanks for the hand, and if you have any further light to throw... well...
P.A.
Follow Ups:
Nah, I don't have many other ideas. Perhaps they were just poorly done pans, or at just the wrong speed that they look a bit jerky at 24fps, maybe they just turned out crappy on BD at 24fps but look fine/better at 30fps (DVD - BD based on same "old" artifacty or non-optimal transfer??). I haven't seen the Pleasantville BD (have the DVD...). But I have seen the jerky pans before (last Kuro plasma display). I'll pay attention for it now, but I have to say I am not that sensitive to it.Do the FW update for sure. But, one thing to sort of get in the habit of with the 83 is to clear the persistant storage whenever something seems wrong. The 83 seems to really need that occasionally, especially so if you have BD-Live enabled...all sorts of strangeness can happen when the persistant storage mechanism goes south.
Edit: sorry, forgot about the synch. I have no experience running HDMI video and analog audio here, I actually had HDMI audio well before HDMI video... All I know is the obvious A/V synch setting on the Oppo (AVRs have it too). The synch setting could vary with the disc/source being played...I *am* extremely sensitive to lip synch issues, which I've never seen with HDMI A/V here.
Edits: 10/21/11
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