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1. Come And See (WWII) - Psychedelic, intense, rich in allegory and biblical references (the title comes from chapter 6 of the Book of Revelation). No special effects as real guns and ordinance were used. The cow strafing scene is frighteningly real (note to Hollywood - this is what real tracer rounds look like!).
2. The Thin Red Line (WWII) - Undoubtedly influenced by the above. A visual and metaphysical masterpiece from Terrence Malick. Why in God's name is this not on Blu-Ray?
3. Gallipoli (WWI) - For various reasons the disastrous Gallipoli campaign has become an indelible part of the Australian national psyche. Full of Australian humour which will go over the heads of everyone else.
4. Das Boot (WWII) - Claustrophobic and dark, it almost makes the viewer feel sorry for the Germans.
5. The Battle For Algiers - A matter-of-fact portrayal of the insurgency and counter-insurgency which led to tactical victory for the French but ultimately independence for Algeria. Non professional actors give it authenticity, along with it being filmed on location where the actual events took place. Banned by the French for several years.
6. All Quiet On The Western Front (original)(WWI) - I still think the 360 degree panoramic shot of the machine-gun mowing down advancing infantry is the most harrowing scene in any war movie ever made.
7. The Longest Day (WWII) - Sean Connery, John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, Rod Steiger, Robert Wagner, Henry Fonda. I mean, who ISN'T in this movie? An absolute classic. The Free French attack on the Ouistreham casino (complete with nuns) is still thrilling after all these years. Looks great on Blu-Ray.
8. Downfall (WWII) - Bruno Ganz steals the show as Hitler.
9. Black Hawk Down - A hardcore minimalist combat movie from Ridley Scott. No subplots, no crappy romantic love interest with a Hollywood "it girl", no politics, no top brass, just the guys on the ground doing their thing. Phenomenal on Blu-Ray.
10. Breaker Morant (Boer War) - Partly a courtroom drama, but it deals with the colonial politics of the British Empire well. Edward Woodward puts in a fantastic performance.
I don't think there are any great Vietnam War movies (unless you count The Odd Angry Shot, but that is too obscure to include, and it would only make sense to Australian audiences). Correct me if I am wrong about there not being any great Vietnam movies.
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Here's a obscure Hollywood one for you .
Go Tell The Spartans
Burt Lancaster 1978, I recommend it
DagW00d
But I haven't seen them all.
The final battle scene in the rain seems to capture the chaos of battle as well as anything I've seen. And the rest of it ain't bad either! :-)
...those film masterpieces are from (respectively) 1937, 1969, 1946. 1943 and 2001.
And still there's more (not previously mentioned - I think):
Alexander Nevsky (1938)
A Matter Of Life & Death (1946)
Master & Commander; Far Side Of the World (2003)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
Zulu (1964)
Waterloo Bridge (1931)
Au revoir les enfants (1987
Rome, Open City (1945)
Grave Of the Fireflies (1988)
Hope & Glory (1987)
Dawn Patrol (1930 or 1939, take your pick)
I also endorse these fine films already mentioned by other inmates:
Ran (1985)
Paths Of Glory (1957)
Cranes Are Flying (1957)
All Quiet On The Western Front (1930)
Come And See (1985)
Apocalypse Now (1979)
Gallipoli (1987)
Underground (1995)
Bridge Over The River Kwai (1957)
The Battle For Aligiers (1966)
Das Boot (1981)
Breaker Morant (1980)
Forbidden Games (1952)
Empire Of The Sun (1987)
The Pianist (2002)
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A fantastic movie, suspenseful and action-packed, it details the moving of great works of art out of Paris at the end of WW2. Burt Lancaster does all of his own stunts, which seems insane even for the period, but he apparently was running the show, as he had the original director (Arthur Penn) fired from the set, and convinced his pal Frankenheimer to take over. Filmed in black and white, probably for economic reasons but it was a great artistic choice as well, since it adds to the mood of the grime and dirt inherent in working on steam-powered locomotives. The film has aged very well-even after 46 years, it does not seem dated in any respect worth mentioning-one plot twist requires some suspension of disbelief, but few movies don't. Speaking of 'worth mentioning', the 'special effects' seem very realistic, probably because they were the real thing-actual trains crashing, the actual French rail yard being actually blown up, etc., stuff you'll never see again in a film. I consider it a 'must see'.
"dammit"
Madness! Madness!
The Empire Strikes back.
So many wars, so many great war films...
" Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination." -Michael McClure
Empire of the Sun just for the P-51 strafing scene if nothing else.
Also, The Great Raid, Glory, the Sand Pebbles
Some corny additions from my childhood, but I enjoyed them then,
Sink the Bismark
Guns of Navaronne
Reminded me of more than a few guys that I knew.
Baba-Booey to you all!
is near the top of my list. Amazing story well told. And closely followed the evnts i n the book (We Were Soldiers Once, and, Young)without a stiff adaptation that often is the result of closely following the book. Mel Gibson and Greg Kinnear are both excellent. Battle scenes ring of realism.
His movies are just vehicles for all that Catholic guilt and suffering crap. Have you ever noticed that in all his recent movies he dies a slow, lingering, agonising death? Yes, we get it Mel, suffering is good.
I suppose we should at least be grateful he's not a Scientologist...
I remember vividly when the battle of Ia Drang Valley went down. While
the film is a more or less faithful telling, it does not show the level
of desperation on both sides nor the dedication nor fanaticism of the
NVA in their first strong showing: both sides won; both sides lost; it
was a battle of strong portent, in that it pretty clearly showed what
was going to happen in 'Nam. It was really major; bigger than Tet. A lot
of good men died those days. Regards,
J.R.
about as well, at least, as actors could do it. I really enjoyed the extras package on this one, the interview with the Major (name escapes me) was excellent. Did you read the book? The part of the book they left out (reasonable considering the time it would have taken to tell the tale) about the loss of basically an entire company the day after the battle who were inexplicably sent back to base walking thru the jungle by an unnamed officer kind of put a damper on our "victory" the day before.
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The best list without the English film war!
Imagine that.
IGNORANT!
dad first row second from right.
Twelve O'Clock High rates highly as does Patton.. I never cared much for Films which focused on the battles as much as the people involved..
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yours stationed?
Email me if you wish.
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Share a bowl of grits with someone you love tonight.
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In Italy 1945.
I'd need to leave you all behind... been missing him since 1985...
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I got to see a B-17 at an Air Show once.. watched it lift off, rise and bank right over my head... just awesome. Loud as hell too. He was basically deaf from it.
I get a bunch of gibberish,sorry..
But you can use it in the body:
Вот как тут, например!
Ran
Tae Guk Gi
Devils On The Doorstep
Underground
Fire On The Plain
The Red And The White
Come And See
Platoon
Viva Zapata
Patton
Apocalypse Now
If so, I love that film! The Uncle Raya song is my all-time favorite! :)
..It is one of the richest, most complex of cinematic experiences. A sensual overload. It's impossible to accommodate the whole of it in a viewing or two.
Somehow I never consider it a "war" film, more a satire.
I take your point. What about the rest of my list? Should I edit? ;-)
Ran
Tae Guk Gi
Devils On The Doorstep
Underground
Fire On The Plain
The Red And The White
Come And See
Platoon
Viva Zapata
Patton
Apocalypse Now
I think Ran definitely belongs on any such list, numbers 2 and 3 I don't know, 4 we already discussed, 5 and 6 I don't know.
Come and See - I know it has strong following cult in the West, personally I think it is too manipulative, but still, a yes... Platoon I would keep with some reservations.
Zapata - an interesting choice from the region rarely covered, actually there have been some interesting movies about the Mexican Revolution, Un dorado de Pancho Villa comes to mind.
Patton - of course, and Apocalypse I never liked, but that must be just me! :)
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You would have to be a complete maniacal egomaniac to do what Napoleon did.
Share a bowl of grits with someone you love tonight.
When I look at his portrait in my office, I see all that in his face and eyes.
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...as is Paths Of Glory.
Cranes Are Flying had a huge impact on me when i first saw it.
Forbidden Games I didn't see until a few years ago, and I heard a nasty rumor thet th Criterion edition was OOP.
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won't face German bullets they'll face French ones!" LOL
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dfs
I think FMJ is the weakest of all Stanley Kubrick's movies.
The Deer Hunter does not float my boat, I'm sorry to say. I actually like the parts of the movie set in the USA as they look so authentic, unlike the VN scenes.
the Khe Sanh landscape.
As films, they are the cream of the Vietnam-era films.
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