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You need to see his, "Funny Games." Scary as hell........ nt

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tinear

In Reply to: RE: The White Ribbon posted by Daryl Zero on March 07, 2010 at 13:37:41

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I like Haneke but..... - afilado 16:36:49 03/07/10 (6)
..Funny Games is just not convincing to me. The family held "hostage" situation is full of holes. I could never buy in to the necessary suspension of belief that escape or overpowering the wimpy bad guys was not possible. This is among the least interesting of his works.
- Spoiler. - tinear 16:53:22 03/07/10 (5)
  Really?
  A guy smashes your leg, probably breaking it, and these two young, fit males with demonstrated violence menace children and your wife--- and you're going to do what, exactly? Remember now, you don't know what they have in store for you.
  I found it very believable, disturbing.
  - RE: Spoiler. - afilado 19:12:22 03/07/10 (4)
    Been awhile since I saw it but I remember SEVERAL neighbors visiting at the road and several other instances early in the hostage situation development when the bad guys were separated from each other with man and wife, though under observation, free in and around the house to make a challenge to their captivity. The injury to the leg - was it truly broken(?)...certainly not "smashed" 'cause he was still waking around on it - came somewhat after clear intentions of the bad guys were known.
    Either of the couple walked past or around numerous objects which could have been used to strike or distract the badies early on.
    I felt the man and wife were unusually submissive to the intrusion. Polite. The bad guys were musta weighed...what, all of 145 lbs. for the wiry one and 170 for the softy-bodied bigger one. They were hardly examples of the manly European men you touted recently
    Maybe it's a cultural thing for the couple to oh-so-meekly point out misbehavior rather than acting in logical defense of themselves. They mounted NONE.
    I can't imagine letting one of those pipsqueaks get past their early smartypants remarks in my house. All it takes is an unexpected thumb in the eye socket. Nobody is going to continue bad behavior with his eyeball hanging on his cheek. Nobody.
    Maybe it's just me - 200 lbs. with a Boy Scout background (snicker) - but I saw plenty of chances to smashmouth the bad guys long before they gained greater control. I actually became disgustedly amused at the early falsity of the situation.
    
    Edits: 03/07/10
    - Not everyone is a commando. Average people aren't. Example: a woman in a business - tinear 21:23:01 03/07/10 (3)
      meeting drew a weapon and methodically went from person to person shooting them. No one attacked her till she'd shot what, six of them?
      This just happened at a university campus. People, average ones, just do not react to violence. Period. Criminals know this.
      - We were talking about a damn movie..... - afilado 21:43:13 03/07/10 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Not everyone is a commando. Average people aren't. Example: a woman in a business posted by tinear on March 07, 2010 at 21:23:01
        
        try to stay on subject.
        
        Yes, and the point is that the movie WAS realistic as my example - tinear 18:20:45 03/09/10 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: We were talking about a damn movie..... posted by afilado on March 07, 2010 at 21:43:13
        
        from "real life" argued.
        I will, however, watch it again to see if you have a point. I certainly don't remember there being a way out. Besides, the guy was an opera lover, not Rambo.
        
        Your point.... - afilado 20:22:41 03/09/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Yes, and the point is that the movie WAS realistic as my example posted by tinear on March 09, 2010 at 18:20:45
        
        ...is taken. And it's ironic to me that this film violates the point. That's why I object to it. It is not "realistic". If it were more Rambo-ish it might be more tolerable.
        
        When you see it again imagine yourself - a smart, capable, improvisatory person - in that precise situation. See how many opportunities there are to stand against these coward-bullies. To shortcut the situation before it deteriorates too far.
        
        Are these people truly sheep to be played with at length, as portrayed, before overt danger set in? Polite, submissive unto death?
        
        You don't have to be a "commando" to defend yourself. You just have to have good and decisive judgement.
        
        I repeat, I like Haneke. The Piano Teacher is remarkable. The same for Benny's Video. The Castle, Code Unknown, The Seventh Continent.....these are memorable and real for their various and different reasons.
        
        Funny Games doesn't measure up in the same way for me.
        
        I'll watch it again as an exercise and see if it can redeem itself.
You like that sort of crap? Which one, BTW? There were two. - Victor Khomenko 16:31:22 03/07/10 (4)
I think both the people who make that sort of films, and those who watch them, are sick.
I rate Haneke very low.

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- Sick like those that enjoy "Psycho?" The original was very good, and in case you - tinear 16:56:04 03/07/10 (3)
  missed it, a pretty good commentary on middle-class lives.
  Of course, I think it also worked quite fine as a scary little film. What would you do in a similar situation? A film like that could.... save one's life! :-)
  - The original what? - Victor Khomenko 17:04:47 03/07/10 (2)
    You confused me with your sentence.
    
    No, more like those who read "120 Days of Sodom". I don't know about you, but watching films like that crap (Funny Games) physically pains me.
    
    I really don't care for any "lessons" I might get from it... I think this is demeaning and in some sense is akin to watching child porn... the only difference being the legality.
    - Haneke's intention in making Funny Games was to massively piss off the audience - Doug Flynn 17:10:35 03/07/10 (1)
      I think he succeeded. But I still think Haneke is a genius (albeit an evil one).
      - Big deal. 35 years ago the very same intention drove Pasolini - Victor Khomenko 17:18:52 03/07/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Haneke's intention in making Funny Games was to massively piss off the audience posted by Doug Flynn on March 07, 2010 at 17:10:35
        
        Was Haneke able to create anything that Paolo has not done already 40 years ago?
        Anything that De Sade has not covered already in his books?
        Of all the human emotions shocking's got to be one of the easiest to evoke.
        
        Edits: 03/07/10

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