Discipline and experience

Posted by Auricle (A) on October 11, 2002 at 08:38:54

In Reply to: Re: It was 19 hits out of 47 shots fired posted by dado5 on October 10, 2002 at 07:36:15:

"My point is that films greatly exagerate this condtion in both directions. 5 bad guys shooting at the hero can't touch him with 200 rounds . . ." slight exageration to great exageration depending on how much the bad guys possess the four "virtues" below.
". . . and he eliminates all five with two clips (you only see one token clip change in a fire fight). This is not reality." Great exageration, except see below . . .

I was once escorted in Angola by a group who were:
1. Very efficient in firefights
2. very experienced in firefights
3. enjoyed firefights
4. had no moral compunction about/enjoyed killing the enemy (but only professionally so, not maniacally so).
(I actually believe that people really good in this arena possess all 4 attributes. They might not make good neighbors but come in really handy in a dark alley.)

The comparison of my escorts' kill rate to that of the ordinary "citizen-soldiers" who opposed them was a joke. However, the one time my escorts were confronted by a group of similar skill, their kill rate went down as well. Let us just say that we and the other guys organised a "structured withdrawal". Even in that engagement (it was an ambush) there were over 50 rounds going past my ears that missed me. The firefight was at night, and as you (or your father) probably know, unless one is moonlight trained one aims too high at night (except for a skilled sniper with a night vision scope.)

The thing that frosts me most in action films is the way they got the details of military operation and protocol wrong, the effects of explosions, yada, yada.

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Topic - Why are the bad guys such lousy shots? - Rod M 14:14:56 10/08/02 (21)

even when the bad guys are robots! - darkstar 05:20:11 10/10/02 (0)

I can't figure out why so many cars use Napalm instead of petrol. - john dem 17:22:24 10/09/02 (0)

My favorite: the one-punch KO and other forms of quick death - brewthunda 14:22:19 10/09/02 (0)

If the bad guys weren't poor shots, movies would be VERY short. - Harmonia 12:41:32 10/09/02 (0)

Art Imitates Life, Life Reciprocates, Therefore..... - AudioHead 12:33:55 10/09/02 (0)

I remember a film.... - dado5 08:24:55 10/09/02 (0)

Re: Why are the bad guys such lousy shots? - Auricle 05:13:08 10/09/02 (6)

It was 19 hits out of 47 shots fired - dado5 09:27:48 10/09/02 (5)

Re: It was 19 hits out of 47 shots fired . . .one more thing. - Auricle 10:17:44 10/09/02 (0)

Re: It was 19 hits out of 47 shots fired - Auricle 09:42:02 10/09/02 (3)

Re: It was 19 hits out of 47 shots fired - dado5 07:36:15 10/10/02 (2)

Discipline and experience - Auricle 08:38:54 10/11/02 (1)

Training is where the Anglo militaries have the world beat - dado5 09:09:55 10/11/02 (0)

No, its the good guys who can't hit nothin' ... - JDK 00:36:16 10/09/02 (0)

lol - njjohn 20:09:04 10/08/02 (1)

collateral damage - TA 21:22:16 10/08/02 (0)

Even worse in the martial arts movies!........ - Mrs. Piggy 18:58:47 10/08/02 (3)

Steven Segal - dado5 08:39:17 10/09/02 (0)

Re: Even worse in the martial arts movies!........ - TA 21:16:27 10/08/02 (1)

bound the hero so he can get free and kill you - njjohn 04:07:20 10/09/02 (0)

action movie cliches - TA 15:49:32 10/08/02 (0)

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Discipline and experience - Auricle 08:38:54 10/11/02 (1)

Training is where the Anglo militaries have the world beat - dado5 09:09:55 10/11/02 (0)

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