In Reply to: Re: Did I detect an hint of.... posted by patrickU on March 13, 2004 at 08:27:00:
I managed to get further back in the archives. Here is what I found on LOTRsVictor:
"She (Victor's wife I believe)undertook to watch it (LOTR ROTK) while I was asleep. The next morning she was upset about spending all that time on garbage - her words."
It apears that Victor hasn't even seen the film. Yet he has dismissed as kaka. There is nothing to respond to. Such a dismisal desrves the same in turn.
Lets look at your comments....
"My son in law had two free tickets for the show and ask me if I would like to come along with him for this film, after an indecisive time of reflexion ( 3 hours for THIS kind of flim..) I remember the polemic on this board and decide to see if I could change my prejudice....Short, no I could not.
Loud, digital for images and sound, in one word depictable.
I won´t go any longer or deeper on this as every thing is utterly wrong. I can understand for some to have some fun seeing it.
The worst was the never ending end."At least you acknowledged your bias against the movie from the get go but really? Where's the beef. "Everything is utterly wrong"??? What specifically is utterly wrong? Are you saying the story arc is wrong? It is classic myth all the way. What was sooo bad about the ending? Is there a time limmit on excellent endings? If it were too loud perhaps you should choose a better theater for sound. The film makers do not pick the levels for playback. Digital for images? What do you mean? If I am missing any of the in depth discussion on this film please feel free to point out what I have missed. But I have to say Victor has simply dismissed a movie he hasn't seen out of what seems to be his prejudice against "Hollywood." You have more or less just called the movie crap without any meaningful discussion. If there isn't more in depth discussion that I have missed there is really nothing to talk about.
I am sorry if I am raining on a parade but I am not very impressed by people who get on soap boxes and call things kaka even if they are doing it for fun. Arm chair quarterbacks are quick to forget or ignore that the work they dismiss is often the life blood of the filmakers. I wonder how Victor would feel if I simply dismissed his amps kaka. Especially given the fact that I have never auditioned any of them. I suspect his reaction would be much like my reaction has been here. I am glad that you guys enjoy certain movies.It seems that the two of you are stuck in a narrow scope of cinematic taste and are entangled in prejudices against "Hollywood." It seems the fact that LOTRs is considered to be an extraordinarily faithful adaptation of a very dense series of highly critically aclaimed novels is lost on the two of you. If you don't like classic myth fine.This is classic myth at it's best. The depth of work that went into creating another world rich with invented cultures is unparralelled in cinema or literature. The movies and the books from which they are adapted are rich with social, politcal and philsophical comentaries on the *human* existance. If you missed it that is not the film makers' fault. Of course Victor must havbe missed it since he didn't even see the movie. Tales of heros and their journeys are among the oldest stories told, They have value. The juxtapositon of epic tales to the small stories of small characters living through such times and finding the courage to survive and succeed against the odds is evocative of a unique magic that can only be found in well the told stories that are classic myth. There is a reason these stories have survived from the time people gathered around a fire to tell them and hear them to this time where people spend millions of dollars to make such stories for the cinema. Anytime you wish to actually discuss the cinematic merits of LOTRs rather than just trashing it I will happily join in that discussion. Have fun.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Did I detect an hint of.... - Analog Scott 09:21:51 03/13/04 (3)
- Re: Did I detect an hint of.... - patrickU 10:14:23 03/13/04 (2)
- Re: Did I detect an hint of.... - Analog Scott 11:33:52 03/13/04 (1)
- Re: Did I detect an hint of.... - patrickU 12:29:25 03/13/04 (0)