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Persona, subtitles and dubbing

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Posted by Bambi B on June 28, 2004 at 20:22:23

In Reply to: Persona posted by Victor Khomenko on June 28, 2004 at 06:46:15:

Victor,

Good to hear some comments on one of my favourite Bergmans- though this is a movie that has such an intense atmosphere for me I only like to see it every few years. And a good dose of Bergman lasts and lasts. The only Bergman I like more often is the very quiet "Wild Strawberries".

I love the idea of confusing Peter and Paul- gives a bit of the "Passion" to "Persona"!

Interesting too is the subject of subtitles and dubbing. I find subtitles very distracting, but prefer them by far to dubbing. I can't imagine "Seven Samurai" with some American voice for Mifune- the quick, staccato rhythm and odd cheers/cries of the Japanese to me heightens the urgency and exotic atmosphere. One movie that worked well enough for me dubbed is my favourite submarine movie- "Das Boot". This was a surprise as the German is perfectly clear in the original, but the dubbed version is well acted and quite natural for dubbed. Since there is no dialogue in other languages- except the singing of "Tipperary"- there is never the ackwardness silliness that occurs in "Hunt for Red October" in which the Russians are all either Scottish (Connery) or Americans (Neill)- then the "real" American arrive to confuse everyone! As I've gotten older I seem to have less and less tolerance for actors who appear as different nationalities or speaking English with those goofball accents (re: W. Ryder in "B.S.'s Dracula").

I've never seen a dubbed Bergman and I think I would miss the strange singing sound of the Swedish. Think of "Seventh Seal" with Kevin Costner as von Sydow.

Cheers,

Bambi B

PS: Say, Victor, go ahead and ask me what time it is! That would create another opportunity to look at my new watch. -And, I will need to look at it at least 400 times per day for the next 10 years to amortize it!

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