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In Reply to: Re: Absolutes posted by edta on July 27, 2000 at 17:18:33:
***The story: man loses job. Man changes his way of living. Man's new lifestyle really disturbs people. Man is murdered.So? This is soooooo boring......... nothing but a local paper story.....
***Some things that are alluded to: The American Dream, mistaken first impressions-or the truth behind the mask, alienation, does the job or economic status define the person? You could make a list.????? trivial.... tedious..... boring..... who cares? Insignificant yeaterday's news.
***For all that, if it did not have a powerful emotional effect, it wouldn't be worth much.That story has "powerful emotional effect"? OK. I don't find it there. It is a rather banal, boring story, a tedious regurgitation of the x-gen created mid-life crisis bullshit that only exists in semi-idle minds of few well-off dumbsters who have no moral foundation. Boring beyond comprehansion.
Like your typical poor rich girl story, torn apart by the horrible realities of having to choose the coctail dress in the next three hours.
Story, story, story, subject again. For the n-th time, story and art are separate. If you like the movie because of its story, that is swell with me (this boring story nothwithstanding), but it doesn't make that "movie" a work of art. Any newspapaper story has, well, story, some are even well written, most not art at all, just skill.As I stated before - to me the movie is usually not about the story, although it certainly can and does play its role quite often. It is about how it is all done. What is so hard about this? In art subject is not only completely insignificant, true art raises any insignificant subject to great hight without you even realizing it. What is so significant about the Corot's tree leaves? Only the fact that it was painted by Corot and how it was painted.
While true art doesn't need any sugnificant story to use as a prop, for it perfectly can stand on its own, a mediocre or sub-art collapses without a story in one picosecond - and that is one powerful diference.
***I agree with you about art being provocative. It must be at least that.
You may agree with that, but this is not what was stated (look again). While it is debatable whether the art MUST be provocative (largely depending upon your definition of that word, to be sure - I don't think it need to be: I do not find Corot's tree "provocative" in any sense of that word. I presume that "provocative" expectation is largely a product of the 1960's mentality and some "revolutionary" art for masses desire), the statement was that many other things ARE provocative without being art.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Absolutes - Victor Khomenko 05:21:57 07/28/00 (2)
- I envy you that you are so far above the concerns of many average Americans today. - edta 19:28:30 07/28/00 (1)
- Sorry pal! - Victor Khomenko 05:07:13 07/29/00 (0)
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