In Reply to: You miss the whole point by a cannon shot posted by Victor Khomenko on May 17, 2006 at 13:08:28:
Well, the original point was how Speilberg treated the Holocaust. Your reply was critical. I asked for examples. You cite SPR, which is not about the Holocaust. Sounds like an offtopic response. But I responded in any event.You replied that the invasion scene did not "do much for you." Which is fine. But then concluding that it was not well done "because it did not do much for you" is conceit. Spielberg's goal in that scene was to bring to the audience the experience of the Normandy invasion, not to satisfy some stodgey definition of "art." The experts have pretty much concluded that he satisfied his goal. Hence, that scene was, in fact, well done because it attained it's purpose. Whether another director would have done it differently is another matter. Veterans for years have complained that films from every country sanitized war. There is no art in war, in killing people. Ultimately, your critism boils down to Speilberg's scene being too realistic. You want art, look elsewhere. But what have you learned?
With respect to Schindler's List, which was the subject, I have not yet read an anwser to my query. Schindler does not contain any gore of any real substance. And the final scene in which the real life descendant's of those Schindler saved is brilliant, and touching. And, undoubtedly, a poignant fact apparently lost on virtually every other film maker who has covered the Holocaust. That you apparently were not moved by that scene says more about you than Spielberg.
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Follow Ups
- Re: You miss the whole point by a cannon shot - jamesgarvin 14:35:02 05/17/06 (17)
- Re-read the thread. - Victor Khomenko 15:18:41 05/17/06 (16)
- I did... - jamesgarvin 09:01:05 05/18/06 (15)
- Me not so sure - Victor Khomenko 11:47:21 05/18/06 (14)
- Oh, boy... - jamesgarvin 14:11:20 05/18/06 (13)
- Psst...James...here's a tip...don't bother getting into a discussion with Victor.... - TWB 17:51:36 05/18/06 (1)
- You are undoubtedly correct... - jamesgarvin 14:04:00 05/19/06 (0)
- Re: Oh, boy... - Victor Khomenko 16:42:10 05/18/06 (10)
- Keep trying. At least this horse got to the water.nt. - jamesgarvin 17:22:16 05/18/06 (9)
- Keep trying what? You are speaking with no knowledge of the subject - Victor Khomenko 17:40:18 05/18/06 (8)
- One more time. Please read. Please concentrate. We'll try again. Here goes... - jamesgarvin 08:33:21 05/19/06 (7)
- Your tantrums are not particularly impressive - Victor Khomenko 09:42:34 05/19/06 (6)
- I am not demanding from you. I am challenging you, from which you run. Congrats.nt - jamesgarvin 10:22:27 05/19/06 (5)
- When someone is not even capable of articulating his challenge, he gets what he gets. - Victor Khomenko 10:38:41 05/19/06 (4)
- Re: When someone is not even capable of articulating his challenge, he gets what he gets. - jamesgarvin 13:56:14 05/19/06 (3)
- "English is not your native language." ...and logic not your strong suit - Victor Khomenko 14:14:39 05/19/06 (2)
- Re: "English is not your native language." ...and logic not your strong suit - jamesgarvin 15:56:39 05/19/06 (1)
- ...and logic not your strong suit..... and neither seems reading comprehansion - Victor Khomenko 16:22:34 05/19/06 (0)