RE: Read your own post

Posted by jamesgarvin (A) on January 19, 2010 at 14:24:42

In Reply to: Read your own post posted by DWPC on January 19, 2010 at 13:20:54:

I never gushed that he was a normal man. Here are my quotes: "He was playing Dillinger. I suggest you do some research on Dillinger, because he was generally well liked, and the citizens at the time actually liked him. Watch the actual video of the scene in which Dillinger was captured, and he really did smile with his arms around the coppers. The coppers really liked Dillinger."

Whether you like it or not, or are willing to admit it or not, that video speaks volumes about Dillinger, and much of the public sentiment about him. Have you ever seen any such videos relative to Bonnie and Clyde? Baby Face Nelson? Pretty Boy Floyd? Nope. Clearly, Dillinger was different. That is not my opinion, those are simply facts.

"That there was no "gangster" behavior for Depp to present."

Read my quotes: "He was likeable because he was the one gangster..." [I called him a gangster], "The point is that while Dillinger did bad things" [Not to worry, I later fill in the blanks on those bad things], "though he most certainly was a gangster" [there is that gangster again], "the film show[s] Dillinger shooting at people? Yes. Did it show him robbing from banks? Yes. [where did I ever, ever, suggest that shooting at people and robbing banks was 'normal?'], "He was not a good guy."

You are trying very hard to put words in my mouth, and attribute meaning to statements that were clearly not intended.

So, again, I'll ask the question for at least the second time. The film shows Dillinger shooting at people and robbing banks, so what do you think Depp's performance should have included that it did not, and, at the same time, made it factually correct? I think you would have preferred Depp to make Dillinger more of a prototypical gangster in order to satisfy your notions of how a gangster should act, when every history lesson on Dillinger tells us he did not act like every other gangster.

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Topic - Public Enemies: Michael Mann disappoints - grinagog 05:17:17 01/18/10 (31)

Johnny Depp as a cold-blooded killer and bank robber. Right..... Mr. - tinear 21:30:54 01/18/10 (0)

For me it wasn't Depp, just poor storytelling and was hard to follow...(nt) - mkuller 18:56:42 01/18/10 (0)

Agreed... one long, dull, unengaging flop of a film. Another Hollywood example of so much wasted potential...N/T - musetap 11:21:19 01/18/10 (0)

Yep...Agree totally... - MaxwellP 07:27:19 01/18/10 (27)

Gangster role? - jamesgarvin 09:12:04 01/18/10 (24)

RE: Gangster role? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 05:41:38 01/23/10 (0)

You're funny...//nt - MaxwellP 11:02:16 01/18/10 (0)

A saint! - DWPC 09:35:14 01/18/10 (21)

You miss thepoint...and the history.... - jamesgarvin 12:56:33 01/18/10 (20)

You're serious? - DWPC 15:10:12 01/18/10 (3)

You need strawmen? - jamesgarvin 06:31:03 01/19/10 (2)

Read your own post - DWPC 13:20:54 01/19/10 (1)

RE: Read your own post - jamesgarvin 14:24:42 01/19/10 (0)

Dillinger robbed banks and killed cops; newspapers made him a popular figure and he hid behind it - MaxwellP 13:12:11 01/18/10 (15)

RE: Dillinger robbed banks and killed cops; that's why he was a bandit not a gangster - Tom Brennan 18:45:52 01/19/10 (0)

You are having trouble with the issue.... - jamesgarvin 13:51:23 01/18/10 (13)

I'll regret this, but... - MaxwellP 14:17:32 01/18/10 (12)

RE: I'll regret this, but... - jamesgarvin 14:56:39 01/18/10 (11)

RE: I'll regret this, but... - MaxwellP 05:57:40 01/19/10 (0)

In your world, "gangsters" are all scowling misanthropes. Dillinger - tinear 21:28:30 01/18/10 (9)

You carry your daftness from outside to films too, I see... - jamesgarvin 06:47:44 01/19/10 (5)

What balderdash you write. You may remember a certain lawyer that was a vicious serial - tinear 07:35:02 01/19/10 (4)

One other thing... - jamesgarvin 09:09:27 01/19/10 (0)

You've still not answered the question.. - jamesgarvin 09:00:56 01/19/10 (2)

Uh, no. Depp's portrayal had Dillinger as a regular guy who just - tinear 08:05:27 01/20/10 (1)

Will you ever answer the question???? - jamesgarvin 10:32:01 01/25/10 (0)

Dillinger was aware of his "celebrity status" + played up to it - grinagog 01:54:43 01/19/10 (2)

RE: Dillinger was aware of his "celebrity status" + played up to it - chazro@charter.net 12:16:33 01/22/10 (0)

I think that is the problem for some here... - jamesgarvin 09:07:14 01/19/10 (0)

Me too - DWPC 08:46:52 01/18/10 (1)

Can I make a comment about Gandolfini ? - phatty 11:46:54 01/21/10 (0)

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