In Reply to: Probably because there are much larger profit margins posted by oscar on September 28, 2007 at 10:55:08:
I have one of those Toshiba HD players (HD-A20) and it has been working flawlessly.BTW, I suggest you click "See what people are saying about this story" and read the dozen or so pages of mixed and contentious responses to the article, unless of course you're the same 'Oscar' who has responded there several times already, in which case you probably already know how meaningless that Home Theater Group endorsement actually is in the overall scheme of things.
>>> "Probably because there are much larger profit margins with blu-ray players than cheap POS Toshiba players. Also helps that the format is also the better format for PQ/SQ." <<<
Blu-ray has yet to deliver in a number of areas in spite of promises and so far the PQ/SQ comparisons have suggested that the formats are almost identical when it comes to real-world viewing.
The bottom line is that Joe Public will buy based on the cheapest way to get to HD which matches the current display device. When it comes right down to a format war it looks more and more like VHS vs Beta back in the early 80's, with Beta offering a marginally better picture from a more expensive delivery system. We all know how that one came out, and we all know where SONY was positioned.
The main difference here is that studios are deeply involved in the process; in fact, movie studios are both key players and reluctant pawns to the outcome. IMHO, this isn't a war that will result in high definition failing to catch on, but rather a chess match that will end in a draw.
As I see it, high definition video content is inevitable because the mandating of change from analog to digital has ushered in broadcast HD television; video sources have to be upgraded to match it wherever possible. The only question is whether one format or the other will prevail before dropping prices on video hardware and the advent of cheaper dual format players make the BrD/HD-DVD war a moot point from a consumer perspective.
I suspect that neither will prevail before Joe Public gets serious about investing in a 'new fangled' video player. The reasons: backwards compatibility isn't an issue with either and the picture quality of both is comparable. In the long run favored hardware/software availability and price will determine that investment, ...but don't expect Joe Public to buy both players unless they're dirt cheap. Note: Exclusivity deals will probably prolong the perceived format war until hardware/software prices drop dramatically.
AuPh
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Edits: 09/28/07
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Follow Ups
- Oscar, what personal experiences have led you to believe that the Toshiba players are "POS" ...? - Audiophilander 13:07:24 09/28/07 (23)
- Mine rejects dts CD-Rs regularly. Put them back in, they play. - Duilawyer 19:20:56 09/29/07 (0)
- What I find worrisome is the possibility J6P will continue to stay away from $30 HD media... - oscar 15:26:03 09/28/07 (20)
- RE: What I find worrisome is the possibility J6P will continue to stay away from $30 HD media... - racerguy 15:30:19 09/28/07 (19)
- Quite likely - Jack G 10:47:33 09/29/07 (2)
- Triple Releases Cannot Be Cost Effective - Robertc88 05:58:27 10/02/07 (1)
- Do you know that for a fact? - Jack G 06:35:34 10/02/07 (0)
- As More HD Displays Are Sold - Robertc88 08:57:41 09/29/07 (0)
- You are looking at quite a few years(/decades?) for the next format. - oscar 15:34:43 09/28/07 (14)
- That's right - racerguy 15:46:09 09/28/07 (13)
- so? It didn't stop you, me or Oscar from adopting SACD - Jazz Inmate 16:59:47 09/28/07 (12)
- I was not an early adopter of SACD or DVD-Audio - racerguy 17:59:50 09/28/07 (5)
- then why adopt at all? Clearly you enjoyed the quality - Jazz Inmate 23:24:39 09/28/07 (4)
- Why do you even need to ask such a question? - racerguy 08:24:12 09/29/07 (3)
- To make the point that it's about quality and nothing else - Jazz Inmate 09:12:57 09/29/07 (2)
- Nothing else? - racerguy 11:22:14 09/29/07 (1)
- nope. Otherwise you wouldn't have adopted SACD or DVD-A - Jazz Inmate 16:21:50 09/29/07 (0)
- And SACD flopped , just like I said , years ago over in Hi-Rez Highway , that it would . ( nt ) - ZS KEKL 17:36:08 09/28/07 (5)
- SACD may be Drivin' Miss Daisy, but DVD-A is pushin' them up. (nt) - Audiophilander 00:54:54 09/29/07 (2)
- Re: " Pushing up daisies " . You must be referring to DSD . DSD is not in the specs for HD DVD and Blu-ray. .. - ZS KEKL 03:01:05 09/29/07 (1)
- deja vu all over again - Jazz Inmate 20:02:55 09/29/07 (0)
- and DVD Audio flopped like I told you it would. You are just the - Duilawyer 22:19:47 09/28/07 (0)
- SACD and DV D-A both failed......not enough people care - Wendell Narrod 20:19:50 09/28/07 (0)
- I was just "funning" with the probable contempt high end shops have with lower priced equipment. - oscar 14:54:17 09/28/07 (0)