"stop this nonsense about fraud, which is a term with legal ramifications"

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Topic - Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player - soundnut 06:37:19 01/18/10 (57)

A more sober and sane article on the Lexicon from Chris Martens - Jazz Inmate 08:44:42 01/28/10 (17)

which brings up a rather interesting question - Joe Murphy Jr 06:58:50 01/30/10 (4)

I don't find that queston too interesting - Jazz Inmate 14:03:23 01/31/10 (3)

It's definitely buyer beware. - The Real Dick Hertz 19:29:56 01/31/10 (0)

sorry for a few - Joe Murphy Jr 17:43:46 01/31/10 (0)

"Really, this whole matter is blown so far out of whack" - Wendell Narrod 17:38:32 01/31/10 (0)

RE: A more sober and sane article on the Lexicon from Chris Martens - Wendell Narrod 10:26:37 01/28/10 (11)

RE: A more sober and sane article on the Lexicon from Chris Martens - Jazz Inmate 14:56:50 01/28/10 (10)

"stop this nonsense about fraud, which is a term with legal ramifications" - Wendell Narrod 15:52:18 01/28/10 (9)

Fine, continue to act like Lexicon swindled the public if it makes you feel better - Jazz Inmate 17:21:27 01/28/10 (8)

Firmware - cfraser 17:37:01 01/28/10 (5)

RE: Firmware - Jazz Inmate 20:04:19 01/28/10 (4)

There *could* be other differences - cfraser 20:42:30 01/28/10 (3)

RE: There *could* be other differences - Jazz Inmate 21:15:00 01/28/10 (2)

What about the BDP-83SE changes? - cfraser 22:25:20 01/28/10 (1)

I bought one a month ago - Jazz Inmate 22:51:08 01/28/10 (0)

"I just think it's the height of ignorance " - Wendell Narrod 17:32:16 01/28/10 (1)

Though I'm replying to you, I'm not talking about you specifically...don't take it personally - Jazz Inmate 20:10:34 01/28/10 (0)

RE: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player - cfraser 17:37:10 01/18/10 (2)

RE: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player - Kal Rubinson 17:50:33 01/18/10 (1)

Don't give me any ideas - cfraser 19:53:32 01/18/10 (0)

Audioholics is on the warpath - Jazz Inmate 11:54:54 01/18/10 (34)

RE: Audioholics is on the warpath - JimL 16:13:52 01/19/10 (16)

RE: Audioholics is on the warpath - Jazz Inmate 23:30:53 01/19/10 (15)

"You really can't put a price on that" - Wendell Narrod 06:30:20 01/21/10 (12)

RE: "You really can't put a price on that" - Jazz Inmate 09:01:36 01/21/10 (11)

RE: "You really can't put a price on that" - Wendell Narrod 09:05:58 01/21/10 (10)

RE: "You really can't put a price on that" - Jazz Inmate 09:38:10 01/21/10 (9)

"rebadged Oppo (as it's well known now what they're getting)." - Wendell Narrod 09:55:21 01/21/10 (8)

RE: "rebadged Oppo (as it's well known now what they're getting)." - Jazz Inmate 10:41:24 01/21/10 (7)

"Lexicon announced a long time ago that they would OEM the Oppo." - Post the reference. - Audiophilander 10:01:01 01/22/10 (6)

totally agree - Joe Murphy Jr 18:35:55 01/31/10 (4)

Yeah, how dare an American company make a US version of an Oppo - Jazz Inmate 08:36:43 02/02/10 (3)

"The way you guys evaluate products and markets, it's a miracle every US job hasn't been exported by now." - So, ... - Audiophilander 22:19:40 02/09/10 (2)

uh...no - Jazz Inmate 22:27:30 02/10/10 (1)

Do you really enjoy making yourself appear the fool? - Audiophilander 11:19:58 02/15/10 (0)

Here's a thread from six months ago that says exactly that - Jazz Inmate 10:52:04 01/22/10 (0)

RE: Audioholics is on the warpath - JimL 11:16:15 01/20/10 (1)

RE: Audioholics is on the warpath - Jazz Inmate 09:03:36 01/21/10 (0)

You didn't actually READ the article, did ya? - soundnut 05:05:57 01/19/10 (4)

You have more faith in a reviewer on a smear campaign than I do NT - Jazz Inmate 08:39:02 01/19/10 (3)

RE: You have more faith in a reviewer on a smear campaign than I do NT - soundnut 09:27:10 01/19/10 (2)

RE: You have more faith in a reviewer on a smear campaign than I do NT - Eric B 13:38:39 01/27/10 (0)

"How much proof do you need?" The proof, as always, is in the listening - Jazz Inmate 09:58:45 01/19/10 (0)

Just look at the pics and read the description. - The Real Dick Hertz 13:11:08 01/18/10 (11)

Can you tell whether any of the resistors or other parts have been upgraded? - Jazz Inmate 17:10:22 01/18/10 (10)

Hadn't thought about the possibility... - The Real Dick Hertz 20:24:10 01/18/10 (9)

RE: Hadn't thought about the possibility... - Jazz Inmate 21:25:26 01/18/10 (0)

IOW, the Lexicon is the A/V equivalent of a $3000 face lift. For some reason it reminds me of this... - Audiophilander 21:10:31 01/18/10 (7)

Probably, but unless you've listened and decided it sounds no better than the Oppo - Jazz Inmate 21:27:27 01/18/10 (6)

You have a point there. - The Real Dick Hertz 10:28:24 01/19/10 (0)

I'm not evaluating the Lexicon BD-30 performance, but your obliviousness to this is reminiscent of the Wizard of Oz too. - Audiophilander 02:02:16 01/19/10 (4)

Ayre, Lexicon and Theta all announced months ago they were using the Oppo - Jazz Inmate 08:54:55 01/19/10 (3)

Audioholics conducted scientific tests on both Oppo and Lexicon players; the performance was virtually identical. - Audiophilander 11:59:38 01/19/10 (2)

Yeah, so you've said - Jazz Inmate 12:53:06 01/19/10 (1)

"...tests that were about as scientific as a crucifixion." - Let he who is without sin cast the first Shakti Stone! (nt) - Audiophilander 16:27:41 01/19/10 (0)

RE: Lexicon busted passing Oppo off as a $3500 Blu-ray player - Ben Van Dyk 11:22:14 01/18/10 (0)

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"stop this nonsense about fraud, which is a term with legal ramifications" - Wendell Narrod 15:52:18 01/28/10 (9)

Fine, continue to act like Lexicon swindled the public if it makes you feel better - Jazz Inmate 17:21:27 01/28/10 (8)

Firmware - cfraser 17:37:01 01/28/10 (5)

RE: Firmware - Jazz Inmate 20:04:19 01/28/10 (4)

There *could* be other differences - cfraser 20:42:30 01/28/10 (3)

RE: There *could* be other differences - Jazz Inmate 21:15:00 01/28/10 (2)

What about the BDP-83SE changes? - cfraser 22:25:20 01/28/10 (1)

I bought one a month ago - Jazz Inmate 22:51:08 01/28/10 (0)

"I just think it's the height of ignorance " - Wendell Narrod 17:32:16 01/28/10 (1)

Though I'm replying to you, I'm not talking about you specifically...don't take it personally - Jazz Inmate 20:10:34 01/28/10 (0)

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