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• I agree. Supposedly an homage to... - Dalton 10:51:10 10/15/03 (1)
  In Reply to: Just watched Kill Bill posted by orresearch on October 10, 2003 at 23:48:41:

  ... the "70's grindhouse Asian martial arts movies" that Tarantino watched as an (apparently) very disturbed and bored teenager. I don't get it. What the hell are "grindhouse movies" and why would I want to see an homage to them?

  I guess we can all be glad that Tarantino didn't spend part of his youth watching 60's industrial training films or army instructional shorts on hygiene otherwise we'd get "homages" to them as well, with the critics still raving over the technical brilliance of the filmmaking.

  Perhaps one could arrange ABBA songs as a suite for full symphony orchestra and convince the Berlin Philharmonic to perform it. But why? It would still be garbage. Then, as a topper, imagine if the orchestra stopped playing halfway through the suite and asked that you return in 4 months to hear the rest.

  Pulp Fiction was OK. But it just blows my mind that people are falling for this crap.

  
  
  

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  • Re: I agree. Supposedly an homage to... - Doug Schneider 12:07:17 10/15/03 (0)
    In Reply to: I agree. Supposedly an homage to... posted by Dalton on October 15, 2003 at 10:51:10:

    And falling hard we are!

    Why would you want to see a homage to them? First, some people may actually like them. Second, go see it and then comment and maybe you'll know -- and even it you don't, you'll still be making more informed statements.

    Doug Schneider
    
    

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• wonderful movie - tunenut 11:47:12 10/14/03 (3)
  In Reply to: Just watched Kill Bill posted by orresearch on October 10, 2003 at 23:48:41:

  love of film and sheer joy of filmmaking in every frame. Plotless, yes, but a brilliantly done homage to every cheesy samurai/kung fu movie...and the anime was excellent. Compelling and I can't wait for volume 2.
  
  

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  • Agree 100% - Doug Schneider 13:22:06 10/14/03 (2)
    In Reply to: wonderful movie posted by tunenut on October 14, 2003 at 11:47:12:

    The movie was amazing. It's the "in-thing" to hate Tarantino -- the guy's so good people just want to bring him down.

    "Kill Bill" ripped off old martial-arts action movies, did it all better, and then repackaged it in a year-2003 film.

    Plotless? I don't agree with that. Did you see "Intolerable Cruelty" -- simply awful, stupid, and predictable. A plot? Not in that one...and that comes from the usually excellent Coen Brothers.

    Kill Bill was riveting, start to finish, and in order to do that, you have to have some story to follow.

    Doug Schneider
    
    

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    • Not necessarily - Todd B. 00:50:22 10/15/03 (1)
      In Reply to: Agree 100% posted by Doug Schneider on October 14, 2003 at 13:22:06:

      While I haven't seen the movie, if a filmmaker is skilled enough to create a compelling character study, there doesn't need to be much of a plot to maintain interest, and Tarantino certainly has proven his ability to create compelling characters.
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      • well there is a plot - tunenut 09:42:25 10/15/03 (0)
        In Reply to: Not necessarily posted by Todd B. on October 15, 2003 at 00:50:22:

        but it is incredibly minimal...Uma has a list of names to kill and that is the movie. At some point in the 2nd movie, perhaps we will know the reason behind the wedding party attack, but this is only brief back story in this movie. On paper, it sounds too thin to be of interest, but the screen is alive from beginning to end.
        
        

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• On the contrary- original, brillant and best soundtracjk of the year. - EdM 13:00:04 10/13/03 (0)
  In Reply to: Just watched Kill Bill posted by orresearch on October 10, 2003 at 23:48:41:

  How he comes up with the most obscure but perfectly suited music I don't know.
  Music is Emotion
  
  

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• A tedious pastiche of 70s films - Mr. Gridlock 10:54:52 10/12/03 (2)
  In Reply to: Just watched Kill Bill posted by orresearch on October 10, 2003 at 23:48:41:

  and it would NEVER have been greenlit had it not been from Tarrantino. Just goes to show you...movie execs are blithering idiots. Nothing new there, I know. But they should have had the nads to tell him to come up with something original, or adapt someone else's work.

  Kill Bill blew tiger chunks.
  
  

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  • And you still paid to see it! - TA 12:30:44 10/12/03 (1)
    In Reply to: A tedious pastiche of 70s films posted by mr. gridlock on October 12, 2003 at 10:54:52:

    QT once said of Pulp Fiction that he showed you Vince and Jules doing a coldblooded hit at the very beginning of the movie, and you still liked them for the rest of the movie. You knew what you were in for, and he still got your $10.
    
    

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    • Nope. Free screening. Never would have paid to see it. <nt> - Mr. Gridlock 13:55:16 10/13/03 (0)
      In Reply to: And you still paid to see it! posted by TA on October 12, 2003 at 12:30:44:

      Not a chance, bucko!
      
      

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• Sublime style vanquishes substance once again! - albee33 19:19:06 10/11/03 (2)
  In Reply to: Just watched Kill Bill posted by orresearch on October 10, 2003 at 23:48:41:

  Kill Bill was the best edited film I've seen all year. It moved with great pace and the cinematography was top-knotch. The typical Tarantino ecletic soundtrack was perfect and edited as such. Some scenes may have been long but they were amusing IF NOT self-parody. Remember the opening titles homage to Run Run Shaw?

  I thought this was a fairly brilliant package that should be enjoyed for its production values more than its plot or characterizations. This time Q definitely had the wry smile of satire on his face.
  
  

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  • Actually, the characterizations were pretty good I thought.. - EdM 12:55:04 10/13/03 (1)
    In Reply to: Sublime style vanquishes substance once again! posted by albee33 on October 11, 2003 at 19:19:06:

    where else could you find a 17 year old girl in a school uniform named Go Go and wheeling a Mace on a 20 foot chain?

    Don't tell me QT isn't original.
    Music is Emotion
    
    

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    • In any Anime, that's where. - Mr. Gridlock 13:54:20 10/13/03 (0)
      In Reply to: Actually, the characterizations were pretty good I thought.. posted by EdM on October 13, 2003 at 12:55:04:

      There was NOTHING original in the movie.
      
      

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• "KILL BILL": Quentin's back! - tinear 14:29:58 10/11/03 (7)
  In Reply to: Just watched Kill Bill posted by orresearch on October 10, 2003 at 23:48:41:

  Nope, it doesn't measure up to the first three films, but it is an entertaining action film. Uma Thurman shows she has great skill, even in this chopstick/Samurai/Kung-fu epic.
  Scenes go on too long, too much repetitive violence (like the fistfights in the second "Matrix," film)---but most of all what's missing is Tarantino's forté: characters. The great incidental dialogue which so perfectly delineated his characters is largely absent.
  Some parts are downright boring, for example: the scene wherein limbs are being called upon to begin responding. Why? There is no drama...no danger. Just time passing as toes are asked to wiggle.
  The predicatability and plot simplicity of the flick is also uncharacteristic. The opening scene also beggars belief: would they interrupt a fight to the death for that reason? It's cute, but it destroys any tension and realism.
  Still, go see it. It is a good, solid action film. It seems it was a big mistake to break the film up into two, Volumes 1 and 2. Some parts screamed out for editing.
  We expect more from Tarantino, but Hitchcock didn't hit all home runs, either.
  
  

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  • Re: "KILL BILL": Quentin's back! - patrickU 02:45:32 10/12/03 (4)
    In Reply to: "KILL BILL": Quentin's back! posted by tinear on October 11, 2003 at 14:29:58:

    And please whitch are the Hitch that you did not like ?
    I wonder if they are the same ( so few ) as mine.....
    As for "American Beauty" I don´t know why....I am allergic at it and curiously the first time I saw it, it was not sooo bad...my displease just grow on it...Like some food whose thinking just let you throw up..
    
    

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    • Hitch seemed off by quite a bit in - tinear 06:00:49 10/12/03 (3)
      In Reply to: Re: "KILL BILL": Quentin's back! posted by patrickU on October 12, 2003 at 02:45:32:

      "Topaz." I thought "The Birds" was disappointing, but only to his high standards.
      I don't have my film guide handy, but I recall a disappointing film with Paul Newman, as well.
      "American Beauty": it had so much right about American life. Perhaps satires have to be experienced by the target society to really "bite?" I mean, a reactionary military guy's son being a dealer. And the father being a closet gay. And the protagonist's perfect wife a "cheater."
      Besides, I think Kevin Stacey was amazing. One of our very best actors. Hard to think of any actor with a "trilogy" of roles at this level in recent history: "Usual Suspects," Se7en," "AB."
      
      

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      • Re: Hitch seemed off by quite a bit in - patrickU 06:14:36 10/12/03 (2)
        In Reply to: Hitch seemed off by quite a bit in posted by tinear on October 12, 2003 at 06:00:49:

        Topaz was a failure so was Frenzy..Marnie...Torn Curtain.. even they all had the particular Hitch touch.
        The Birds was very very good. The psychological aspect between the two women was a real pleasure to look at..and so much more...
        Have you ever seen " The Trouble with Harry "? You now what is for me the ultimate test for a good or not so good film...? A " good " one , bettered itself after each repeated viewing...it gots a life of his own... which adjust to your own changing..That is just marvelous!

        The father " The closet guy " was for me the most visible turn off! It was so obvious and so cheap..made for the not very clairvoyant..
        Do you still loves me?
        
        

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        • Yep, we agree on the "bad" ones. They were probably - tinear 08:16:09 10/12/03 (1)
          In Reply to: Re: Hitch seemed off by quite a bit in posted by patrickU on October 12, 2003 at 06:14:36:

          made for some Hollywood contract. "The Birds:" the birds themselves weren't scary enough.BTW, I was recently in Bodega Bay, where the scariest parts were located and filmed on location. The little restaurant is now huge, with a store attached---totally unrecognizable. The town is a weekend place, replete with million dollar homes, for well-heeled SFranciscans.
          
          

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          • Re: Yep, we agree on the "bad" ones. They were probably - patrickU 08:52:01 10/12/03 (0)
            In Reply to: Yep, we agree on the "bad" ones. They were probably posted by tinear on October 12, 2003 at 08:16:09:

            I think he was getting old..it was his own production at the time.Even the " contract " one, made when he came to the USA, for Selznick had the touch of genius..Rebecca look how he made love to her...
            At the time " The Birds " came out it was scary enough! But it doesn´t matter it is far more as just a scary movie..and How...only the portait of the lesbian bird specialist (Ornit....) is just the money worth.
            If you have not seen this film for a long time you should do...
            I envy you to have been in this place...and not... for seeing what they have done to it...
            
            

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  • Nice write up, thanks. nt - Chris Garrett 18:40:56 10/11/03 (1)
    In Reply to: "KILL BILL": Quentin's back! posted by tinear on October 11, 2003 at 14:29:58:

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    • You're very welcome. nt - tinear 15:22:04 10/12/03 (0)
      In Reply to: Nice write up, thanks. nt posted by Chris Garrett on October 11, 2003 at 18:40:56:

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