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In Reply to: Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? posted by Analog Scott on March 15, 2004 at 21:27:12:
A) Hollywood doesn't like Spielberg
B) Hollywood doesn't finance Spielberg - Spielberg does
C) Hollywood has no impact on the films Spielberg makes - they can't force him to change scripts cast etc unlike many poorer directors. Spielberg runs his own studio.
D) Platoon was made for 1.5 million by Stone a first time director about his OWN story while a grunt in Vietnam.
What was heavy handed about it? Pretty tough arguement since he was just showing what happened. Sorry if you believe any film that induces emototion is heavy handed. Welles was heavy handed with the camera unecessarily in Kane and people love it...a minority of people thankfully.The Terminator was a better movie than Titanic - The Terminator was one of if not the best Romance film of the 1980s. Considering the budget and the fact that Arnold isn't an actor I think Cameron did an outstanding job with the Terminator. A raw at the time scary, well paced action film with a very strong Romance at its core. Despite some issues with the time line logic(which happens in sci-fi) it was one of the best films of the 1980s.
Titanic requires ignoring the lines to a large degree and the overly sappy sequences. It's a harlequin romance novel pumped up like a Tolstoy novel. Best picture most certainly not deserved but It was pretty good overall and certainly better than Gladiator - a total mind numbing waste of space.
What was worse was the Crowe not only got NOMINATED???? But that he actually WON??? Ralph Fiennes in Sunshine(the film had some problems but not the performance) or Javier Bardem were robbed as were every other nominee.
You want to see something on Rome watch I, Claudius - nothing compares.
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But one who clearly help to understand what happended back then, from this view it is masterful.
Oh I liked Sunshine...it has problems. For one we dodn't need the third romance...or needed to see most of the second romance.Basically it needed to be re-edited and some of the melodrama taken out. that said it was still better than most of the films that came out that year and it was IMO miles better than the film that WON best picture -- Gladiator.
Another one I liked out of Canada was Felicia's Journey which for a film about a Serial killer dwarfs Silence of the Lambs.
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