 
|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
|
|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
65.116.251.98
In Reply to: Yea, what he said * posted by Road Warrior on February 3, 2006 at 12:18:16:
you either buy that he was let into that family by imagining scenarios that weren't at all played out (or even seriously hinted at) in the film and you think the acting wiritng and directing is good based on that imagining or you see the film for what it is and consider it mediocre at best.;-)
Seriously though... I did consider that the family was basically aware of his indiscretions but overlooked them. I though, thought that if that was true, it was for the sake of the daughters happiness and not some desire to continue the family dynasty and cement their social standing -- a pretty ridiculous notion consideringt there's no way the people in their class would ever take Rhys seriously as one them and because the family was NEVER shown in any kind of upper class social situation with their peers trying to apss him off as worthy. Anyway for me, the believability of what Auph proposes hinges on this...
"Rhy's interests in the actress were not so much indiscrete, as considered inconsequential, overlooked by a family who believed that grooming Rhy's for introduction into proper society took precedence over all else once his commitment to the daughter was established."
Now forgetting for the moment that we've already established how ridiculous it is to think that Rhys was let into the family to continue their dynasty, he never once deomonstrated on screen that he genuinely cared about or was committed to the daughter. He didn't even fully demonstrate that he was conmitted to his new lifestyle until he started killing people which was a couple or few years after they let him in.
I just can't make the leap and think that the brother and father, who both demonstrated a warmth and a genuine love for their sister/daughter would callously overlook her happiness for the sake of trying to establish some low life social climbing philanderer as belonging in high society in order to further the "dynasty."
IF that was the story it was even more poorly done then I thought.
Also, the daughter was not at all unattractive.
"Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
Follow Ups:
... you are assuming things that were never even hinted at in the film and misinterpreting other things. The love of the father for his daughter and brother for his sister has to be tempored by the manipulative nature of the matriarchal head of this household. Given the subtext of Woody's take on the stiff-upper lip British culture this film could almost be viewed as the study of a dysfunctional upper class family which is held together by pride and generations of inherited wealth.Taken another way, Match Point could be Woody's answer to LoTR! ;^D
> > > "Now forgetting for the moment that we've already established how ridiculous it is to think that Rhys was let into the family to continue their dynasty, he never once deomonstrated on screen that he genuinely cared about or was committed to the daughter. He didn't even fully demonstrate that he was conmitted to his new lifestyle until he started killing people which was a couple or few years after they let him in." < < <
I disagree, Rhy's character did establish his interest in the daughter and effectively portrayed himself as an underdog in need of saving which perfectly played to the daughter's character. She became strongly infatuated with him, albeit much more so than he with her; to him, she was an openning to a world he'd only dreamed about.
He intentionally went about impressing the family with his polite restrained demeanor and serious effort to better himself. The father obviously saw something admirable in Rhy's ambitions and as the daughter was infatuated with him it seemed reasonable to give the boy his chance once he had established himself in the good graces of everyone else in the family, especially the mother.
> > > "I just can't make the leap and think that the brother and father, who both demonstrated a warmth and a genuine love for their sister/daughter would callously overlook her happiness for the sake of trying to establish some low life social climbing philanderer as belonging in high society in order to further the "dynasty."" < < <
They never saw Rhy's character as a "low life social climbing philanderer," but they were concerned about her taking up with someone unsuccessful and the cost of that to both their daughter's happiness and the family pride, so the father openned doors for the boy that he'd never have been able to accomplish by himself.
> > > "Also, the daughter was not at all unattractive." < < <
In comparison with Scralett she was average, not totally unattractive, but not beautiful. That's the way the characters were played in the context of the film and it worked perfectly, IMHO.
AuPh
sometiomes thats worse than unattractive, no? I did like her tho. I felt she was hanging onto Rhys as a good catch but deep down she seemed alright. And sure to forgive his indescretions, IMHO, up to but not including, a pregnancy. Just as deep down Rhys wasn't a good person.
----------------------------------------------------------
"Do I have to spell it out?
C --- H ---- E ---E ---- S --- E
A --- N --- D
O ---- N ---- I ---- O ---- N ---- S"
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors:
Top of Page ]
[ Contact Us ]
[ Support/Wish List ]
[ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
