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In Reply to: Re: Be thankful.. posted by Victor Khomenko on April 13, 2006 at 12:47:31:
I think I caught the profanity and the bit about wit (I mentioned both)... I think Smith is low brow, a bit of a slob, heavily influenced by pop culture, and a good film maker. I watched the monolog and enjoyed it...If I may be so bold.. I think there are two problems:
i) the performer. Smith does his thing... and is pretty willing to admit he has made a fortune off d*ck and f*rt jokes. For me, I was not offended by the content or delivery. It was not offensive given his ouevre... and certainly not unexpected by the audience.
ii) fandom. People do not always get the message. Personally, I do not worry about people not being able to cram something into their brain because they spend time listening to Smith, as much as what do they think he is telling them?I am not a big fan of film makers or actors talking about their craft (even Gere, with all his earnest causes, never rises above dull). As soon as they start throwing around the word "genius", it becomes even more ridiculous. However, Smith has pretty much made it... based on the strength of his writing... and I think any film maker who builds his career on writing (whether you like what he produces or not) is of major importance in an age where writing has decayed so much. Profanity and all, I would argue Smith is a far more direct path to wit and humour than any of the actor's you list (who, well, just act).
Here is to "wit and humour" though... I hope it makes a comeback :-)
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As last time, your post is somewhat orthogonal to mine.My post had nothing to do with whether or not he "made it". Personally I think he "made" very little, but apparently there are many who think otherwise - that is fine with me.
My post was not about his acting or writing style... I will leave it up to his "huge fans" to comment on those. It was far broader, but also much more narrow at the same time.
Perhaps you feel differently, but I do expect certain level of social skills from the directors I am inclined to respect. Notice - I am not talking about actors here (another mistake of yours...) but those who actually create, not just play something.
His "performance" that night was pitiful when considered in that context, all the things that he apparently "made" could not compensate for lack of intellectual thrust in his delivery. That is what my post was about.
You apparently like what he writes... but that makes his appearance so much more unfortunate.
I mentioned "I Remember" which features Mastroianni for good reason. As Stanislavsky used to say: "Love art in yourself, not yourself in art". Mastroianni is a marvelous pupil of that school, while Smith is an almost exact opposite.
"Perhaps you feel differently, but I do expect certain level of social skills from the directors I am inclined to respect."(A) I am not sure what "social skills" have to do with talent.
(B) I suspect that most of the directors you admire crafted their art before the development of the fishbowl that we live in today. With the litany of interview shows, entertainment shows, news programs, magazines, and television, directors, actors, and their acts and words are far more visible today than even thirty years ago.I suspect that many directors of bygone days lacked social skills. You never knew about it. Who knew of Kennedy's exploits when they were taking place?
(C) "Notice - I am not talking about actors here (another mistake of yours...) but those who actually create, not just play something." Actors do not create? Just play something? And I guess singers just read the printed word off the page. Ever see a broadway play in which two different actors play the same role? Ever see the same charachter played by two different actors? For reference, see Brian Cox as Hannibal Lecktor in Manhunter, then Anthony Hopkins in the same role.
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