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In Reply to: Best progressive scan DVD players for CRT Projecctors without a line doubler posted by stylinlp on November 07, 2002 at 10:20:28:
A DVD player with a progressive output can be visualized as a regular DVD player with a "line doubler" built in. The terms "progressively scanned DVD" and "line doubled DVD" are one in the same.If you have a progressive DVD player [with the progressive output turned on] you cannot use any other scan conversion device between the front-end and the monitor...unless the monitor in question is fairly unique, and has special needs.
Some/most HD monitors have a scan converter built in. They automatically up scan any incomming signal that is less than 480p, to 480p. If a signal at or above 480p is presented to the projector, it will automatically disable its own internal scaler [at least that's the most common way], and show the image in it's native resoloution. The output from a progressive DVD machine is 480p.
So now, the question is which device has the better scan converter? The DVD [front-end device] or the monitor. Typically with a cheaper front-end most folks will often prefer to use the interlaced componet outputs and let the monitor scan convert the image. With a high end DVD player, usually the onboard scan converter will look better. Best to try both and see. Frankly, in the $300 catagory, I wouldn't expect very great things from a DVD players scan converter. The DVD2800mkII is superior to the 900 both in terms of build and performance [audio and video].
Follow Ups:
I agree with everything you said here except the following statement...
*Frankly, in the $300 catagory, I wouldn't expect very great things from a DVD players scan converter.*In my testing I found, for less than $300 a Panasonic RP-82 in progressive mode outperforms the 2800II and many other machines costing upwards of $1000 like the Sony 900ES, Toshiba 9200 and a few others. Also the Panasomic RP-91K beats these machines for strict video performance. There are quite a few progressive DVD players that are using Faroudja based chipsets that are excellent machines in the $150-400 range including the Denon DVD-1600. In fact for video quality I would take the 1600 over the 2800II myself.
Hey Eric,I'll agree that some "budget" players buck the trend. Panasonic makes some nice machines, and the Denon DVD1600 is a very nice machine for the $$$. For that matter, I think I'd also prefer the 1600 over the 2800. The 2800 series has been a tad problematic...a nice enough player, but for the $$$ there's better options, IMO.
I'll also allow that the latest generation of low dollar progressive machines are a fair shot better than the machines they replaced, in terms of video quality.
Perhaps my statment was a bit too far reaching.
:-)
Steve
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