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In Reply to: Re: Denon AVR-4802 vs Rotel RSX-1065 posted by Seguin on January 13, 2003 at 08:17:32:
Well, you're in a very select group that finds the Atkis remote non-horrible. BTW, don't drop the remote or crack the screen (easy to do) - it's not covered under the 4802's warranty and I've heard many horror stories regarding attempts to get it repaired and/or replaced.As you discovered, the 4802's amps, while competent, are nothing to write home about. Like you, many other 4802 owners eventually end up using it a pre/pro.
So, to recap you spent around $2000 for a mid-fi receiver and still had to throw some more bucks into it for proper amplification. Now compare the 3802 and the 4802 in "pre/pro" mode. I think might agree that at around $700, the 3802 would have been a better buy.
Austin
"I own a 4802. I don't find the remote "horrible." In fact, my wife is quite happy with it as she can operate the entire system from a single remote - and has no trouble doing it. She is quite happy to not have to try and guess which remote operates which piece of equipment. The menu system on the remote is really quite straight forward and not hard to use. It is a learning remote and I have had no problems programming additional equipment and features into it."
Follow Ups:
...I dropped the remote on the corner of a table & cracked the screen. It was replaced for a $15.00 shipping charge and the new one had upgraded software. You may not like the remote - that's your choice. I've never had anyone spend more than 1-2 minutes playing with it before they understood how it worked. Seems really simple to me and at least 5 other people.You select the device from the left hand menu. The device controls come up on the screen and you control the device. To control another device, you select it from the left hand menu. Device comes up, etc. On those devices (like the receiver) that have more controls than can be displayed on 1 page, you use either the joy stick or the arrows at the top of the menu page to access the next page.
This is difficult?? Wow! Like the recipe for ice cubes, maybe?
No, actually the 3802, for my use, would NOT have been a better buy as the the 3802 did not have THX processing and that WONDERFUL remote.
Also, I do use the amp section of the 4802 to drive 2 separate zones of outdoor speakers, which I can do independently with this receiver. So really, I'm quite happy with the choice. I'm also sure that with different speakers (not quite so current hungry), the receiver would have been just fine. I have a friend with the 3802 driving Klipsh and it works/sounds fine for his use.
So, let's get this straight - you don't own a 4802, hate the remote, but feel you need to comment on my uses of equipment & choice on how to spend MY money? Hmmmmm....my how arrogant of you.
Don't own one - used to but "downgraded" to 3802 and bought an amp with the difference.Different strokes on the remote - I'll remember your replacement story for reference to owners that have had problems.
THX post wasn't critical for me - I agree some people find it desirable for optimum HT.
As far as dollars, you get 95% of the performance of the 4802 (in pre/pro mode) at much less than 50% of its price by using the 3802. You, as is your right, appear to place a very high value on THX post-processing (around $1,300 to be precise). Your choice.
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