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In Reply to: Re: no lossless or uncompressed pcm posted by Jack G on April 14, 2007 at 17:00:42:
Do you know for a fact they couldn't fit lossless audio on, or just didn't bother?"Kong came in at 27.4GB total, so no lossless.
I have to disagree/agree with the "...and Warner is, but apparently not for BD." comment. I disagree that audio quality is a high priority at WB: their use of analog watermarking for DVD-A and insistance on Dolby Digital (instead of DTS) for DVD-V pretty much cements that issue in my opinion.
And as for WB audio on Blu-ray, I agree 100% with you on that one. Several of their 50GB releases have done no better than 640kb/s Dolby Digital, as opposed to an uncompressed LPCM soundtrack or a lossless codec (which we all know would be Dolby TrueHD due to the fact that the two have been in a virtual software/codec 69 suck-off for the last decade... eeewww!). It really makes no sense because providing an uncompressed LPCM soundtrack would cost them absolutely nothing to use! And that same LPCM soundtrack could be used for the Dolby TrueHD encoding for an HD DVD lossless soundtrack. Of course, they'd have to give Dolby some head... er, royalties for using it.
Remember, your average smhmoe thinks MP3s sound good.
Yes, so true and so sad.
Follow Ups:
Warner does some TrueHD, but not on all movies. Universal does none. It doesn't seem to be a high priority with the HD DVD group. Oddly, I hear Wienstein/Genius does a better job.> > > Kong came in at 27.4GB total, so no lossless. < < <
Well, yes that's ture, and this comes up alot, but according to Amir in the AVS insider's thread :
"The video part is not a fixed number. One can fine tune it more and squeeze it down as needed. Remember that the quality curve for VC-1 is highly exponential and approaches a very horizontal asymptote quickly. So looking at the file size for video doesn’t tell you anything about what else you could put in there.Put another way, when the bit budget is allocated for the various parts of the title, the data rate for video is dialed in and then encoding begins. Any trouble spots are then optimized. Given this process, you can’t say that the file size had to be the number that was picked. A smaller number could be picked with potentially more hand tuning needed without degradation to the movie. "
I don't know if this would work though.
Of course, since its Universal the point is moot.:-(
Jack
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