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In Reply to: decision time posted by petew on January 08, 2002 at 07:47:08:
"...I didn't like the styling of the Sony, as I prefer a black bezel, which is more neutral and blends well with any decor."I agree Pete. With light colored bezels I find myself constantly aware of the bezel; that the image has been framed and contained. This adds another layer of visual distraction to the experience. I find the Panasonic bezels are the best, being extremely dark (which is better with letterboxed images, so the bevel does not contrast sharply with the dark bands), and the fact that they are extremely thin bevels. When I see the Panny, I'm aware of the image and only the image, like a big wonderful picture cast in the air.
I'm glad you pointed out the cabling issue with the NEC vs. the Panasonic! It's been almost impossible to find someone who has seen both those models. (BTW, can you confirm that it was the newest NEC MP3 that you saw, not the earlier MP2?).
I agree about the Panny 50." Nothing really touches it. My local stores have 42, 50 and 61" models spanning brands from Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, Marantz, Pioneer and Fujitsu. The Panny 50" is the clear winner to me. It simply has the clearest, creamiest, most noise and artifact free picture of all. When looking at a shot of the blue sky on most plasmas I'm aware of pixelization and processing errors. On the Panny it's like looking at...the sky.
I'm in exactly the same decor situation as you regarding cabling/size of plasma/size of wife's temper. I find the extra pixels of the 50" definitely make a difference in the way sharpness is extended to the smallest of objects in the picture - something the 42" models have a bit more trouble with. However, the 42" inch looks so bloody awesome it's easy to forget such quibbles. Besides, the 50" in Canadian dollars is only for rich guys.
BTW, Pete, do you notice something about reviews in the Home Theater world? They don't really talk about the viewing experience the way we audiophiles get into the subtleties of how various equipment effects the listening experience. In a HT mag review, all products, especially display screens, either pass a similar set of A-B-C-D tests or they don't. A plasma or LCD projector either has black levels "as good as" a CRT or they do not. As if these tests told the reader just what the screen looked like. There is very little prose devoted to how the differences between displays actually affect the perception of the picture (like publishing only the specs of an SS amp vs. a single-ended 300B tube amp, without any mention of how the sonic experience contrasts with each amp). Any display can be "clear," "rich," "colorful" ...but Plasma pictures look decidedly different - smoother and more organic - than other designs, yet I rarely see such things discussed in these terms.
Anyway, have fun.
Rich.
Follow Ups:
what's puzzling about the whole business of High Definition video is how little anyone seems to know about it. After all, High Definition has been around for 20 years, 30 even (I do believe that HDTV has been announced as "comming" every single year since 1970, which by the way was the same year we were told that "In 20 years all the oil will be gone!"Well, here it is 30 years later, and you still can't get HDTV (except in Japan) while gasoline is more plentyful and less expensive than at any time in it's history (in the US).
So I suspect there's a fraud, a vast Right Wing conspiracy to prevent the far left Liberals from seeing The West Wing in 1080i.
Take the high-end retailers for example. It used to be that automobile salesmen were the kings of not knowing a damned thing about the products they sell, but today, here in the 21st century, it's the people who sell audio/video. They are the most clueless bunch since the Republican Congress that thought they could force Bill Clinton out of office (only Bill Clinton himself could do that, and even he had a hard time of it).
And the entheusast magazines and websites...even worse! They spit and foam and spew as if they know what the hell they are thinking, but if you look behind the curtain, what you'll find is a direct connection to the advertizing/marketing consultants of Madison Avenue.
Their knowledge only goes as far as the colorful brochure, if that.None, I say again, NONE of these (pardon the expression) salesmen have this gear in their homes, and they wouldn't dream of trying to install/hook it up themselves. They know better. There's probably only three people in the world who know how to dial in an HDTV antenna, cable and ground it properly, figure out the best way to wire the DVD, VCR, Satellite, preamps, monitor, video processor, amps and speakers with the video in such a way that you can get by with only 65 remotes, and two of them never leave Japan.
I've been to every audio/video store within 2 hours drive of my house and not a single one has a single person who knows more about audio and video than I do, and I don't know shit.
Need any more proof? OK, check out the inputs on the Panasonic TH42PWD4: there are two High Definition inputs: RGB/component on BNC, and the 15pin sub D.
Now, check out the Panasonic TU-HD20S HDTV satellite receiver: it outputs component video on **** RCA JACKS **** and doesn't even have the sub d output. WHICH MEANS PANASONIC'S HDTV SATELLITE RECEIVER/DECODER IS INCOMPATABLE WITH PANASONIC'S BEST TELEVISIONS!!!!!
No wonder everyone in the asylum is insane.
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