Re: Definitely not accurate but maybe still entertaining>

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Posted by Joe S on April 28, 2000 at 07:02:31

In Reply to: Re: Definitely not accurate but maybe still entertaining> posted by Victor Khomenko on April 28, 2000 at 05:15:24:

Its not posisible the way it was done in the movie - the destroyer would have literally had to drop 20 depth charges in about a 5 or 10 second period which is simply not possible with roll off racks (now thats exactly what a hedgehog would do but the Germans didnt have the hedgehog) - nor was it the rate they were rolling off the racks when the director cut to the surface to show them being dropped. Sort of like they multiplied on their way down.

The depth charge runs went something like this - before reaching the sub: discrete explosion, discreted explosion - over sub: ratta tatta tatta tat 15 or 20 explosions, just beyound sub: discrete explosion, discrete explosion,... and all the while they are rolling off the fantail of the destroyer at the before and after rate.

And inside the sub? 4" pipes burtsting, seams buckling, dozens (hundreds?) of leaks and a skeleton crew of only 6 or 7 Americans manning a captured and unfamiliar German U Boat who couldnt possibly fix this amount of damage. But 2 minutes later before the next barrage came - no leaks, no problem. Oh yeah, did I tell you about the part yet where they dove 50 % beyond the sub's crush depth after sustaining all this damage? You get the idea.

And this from a single destroyer in which the sub was locked in a rather artificially contrived duel. I wont explain the contrivance as it would blow the story for those who havnt seen it. But let me put it this way Victor - knowing your taste in war movies and your response to Stalag 17 I suspect this one would make you blow a gasket.

And never mind wondering how a Geman capital ship could survive in the middle of the Atlantic by itself witout air cover to be there to attack the sub in the first place...

Oh well. Tora Tora Tora or Das Boot its not when it comes to historical accuracy. Instead what many refer to as a "pocorn" movie. Which is just fine if thats what you're in the mood for. Believe it or not I still enjoyed this movie at one level, its just that the gaps are fairly easy to spot and if such things disturb you this might not be you kind of movie.

joe

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Topic - UB-571 - Tranny 11:39:57 04/27/00 (23)

is Keitel's butt unnecessarily exposed in this movie? (nt) - caa 14:38:17 05/03/00 (0)

Re: UB-571-- comparisons to other WW2 sub movies? - Bruce from DC 12:04:04 04/27/00 (21)

Well its sure no... - Joe S 14:30:58 04/27/00 (20)

Re: Well its sure no... hmmmmm . . . - Bruce from DC 15:22:24 04/27/00 (19)

Re: Well its sure no... hmmmmm . . . - Mart 00:24:44 04/28/00 (5)

Re: Well its sure no... hmmmmm . . . - Victor Khomenko 05:19:26 04/28/00 (3)

that's surprising . . . - Mart 07:34:05 04/29/00 (2)

Works great on junk channels too - Victor Khomenko 07:49:49 04/29/00 (1)

Yes, but to the point ... - Mart 22:02:27 04/30/00 (0)

oops, meant for VK <nt> - Mart 00:25:57 04/28/00 (0)

Hey, if you like sub flicks... - Joe S 21:36:20 04/27/00 (0)

Maybe not accurate but still entertaining> - Tranny 16:03:19 04/27/00 (11)

Definitely not accurate but maybe still entertaining> - Joe S 21:31:25 04/27/00 (5)

Re: Definitely not accurate but maybe still entertaining> - Victor Khomenko 05:15:24 04/28/00 (4)

Re: Definitely not accurate but maybe still entertaining> - Joe S 07:02:31 04/28/00 (3)

LOL, I see.... and how about that Stuka Pilot? - Victor Khomenko 07:17:42 04/28/00 (2)

Or the fighter pilot... - Joe S 09:14:10 04/28/00 (0)

Hans-Ulrich Rudel - The Stuka Pilot - Victor Khomenko 07:46:28 04/28/00 (0)

And speaking of Keitel... - Victor Khomenko 18:37:38 04/27/00 (4)

VK, if you like Harvey.. - Tranny 13:39:48 04/28/00 (1)

Will definitely consider. Thank you. (nt) - Victor Khomenko 14:12:25 04/28/00 (0)

Re: And speaking of Keitel... - Larry S 19:07:14 04/27/00 (1)

Thank you, that sounds right. - Victor Khomenko 19:40:20 04/27/00 (0)

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Re: Definitely not accurate but maybe still entertaining> - Joe S 07:02:31 04/28/00 (3)

LOL, I see.... and how about that Stuka Pilot? - Victor Khomenko 07:17:42 04/28/00 (2)

Or the fighter pilot... - Joe S 09:14:10 04/28/00 (0)

Hans-Ulrich Rudel - The Stuka Pilot - Victor Khomenko 07:46:28 04/28/00 (0)

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