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In Reply to: This is NOT about intelligence posted by Victor Khomenko on July 8, 2000 at 06:40:02:
Actually its about naive adults who take 9 year olds to R rated movies. I always wondered who those folks were. Now I know. My parents sure didnt do it.And Victor, while I can relate to what you say to some degree mass media entertainment has never been about quality. It been about entertaining the masses. Using is as a barometer of societal health is a bit of a reach. The US has NEVER been a country in with the majority of filmgoers would have sat through (never mind enjoyed) a screening of the films you typically enjoy. I know its popular for some to look over hollywoods history and name good films of the past and decry the drop in quality its worth remembering that that library of exceptions is culled from a population of thousands of ordinary or worse movies accumulated over the better part of a century. And never mind the pre code days in which sex / drugs and moral ambiguity were a staple, or the post code exploitation flicks. This movie has always been out there and there has always been an audience for it. Sweeping it under the rug doesnt make that magically disappear nor does using it as an object lesson in social decay makes any sense.
I suspect what really drives the frustration with this movie is the violation of a traditional US film taboo - showing the penis or a representation of it. There is something about male frontal nudity that seems to define a rather ridiculous US moral standard which permits female nudity in movies yet reactions of moral outrage if a male is involved. Both this movie and the new Jim Carrie movie (in this case in the form of a dildo) have crossed this rather parochial US barrier and have gotten slammed for it.
joe
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Follow Ups
- Re: This is NOT about intelligence - Joe S 09:16:55 07/09/00 (17)
- Some good points, but... - Daryl 10:41:43 07/10/00 (8)
- What rock have you been living under? - Joe S 13:47:18 07/10/00 (7)
- You gotta be nuts! - Daryl R 14:32:12 07/10/00 (6)
- Take responsibilty for your actions! - Joe S 16:32:30 07/10/00 (5)
- I'll reply to your arguments(?) - Daryl R 18:39:26 07/10/00 (4)
- Re: I'll reply to your arguments(?) - Joe S 14:23:47 07/11/00 (2)
- Joe, I wish your theater were typical of the United States - Mike Craig 09:38:43 07/12/00 (1)
- I hear you... - Joe S 12:30:14 07/12/00 (0)
- More... please more! - Scott 11:07:31 07/11/00 (0)
- Re: This is NOT about intelligence - Victor Khomenko 05:48:14 07/10/00 (5)
- So you're not the worlds biggest.... - Joe S 07:03:36 07/10/00 (4)
- Ah, but... - Victor Khomenko 07:55:37 07/10/00 (3)
- True to an extent... - Joe S 08:41:39 07/10/00 (2)
- Why is cable bundled? - Shane 12:49:17 07/10/00 (1)
- Not that way - Victor Khomenko 12:57:59 07/10/00 (0)
- FWIW, this film does not have female nudity. - TAFKA Steve 13:57:13 07/09/00 (0)
- Re: This is NOT about intelligence - Tom §. 11:34:08 07/09/00 (0)
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