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Re: How about a specialty forum for American or English language films?

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All movies have a plot - some are un-intelligable. Something I learned long ago taking all those English Lit classes. Many people think that a piece of writing that is open to endless interpretations is actually a good piece of writing. Which it isn't.

Many people who think they know something about film fall into this exact same trap. This is different from open endings, or characters that can be viewed in different ways.

Take 81/2. Here is a film director making a film about himself not being able to generate an idea of what film to make. He has been given the money to make a film but has no idea what to make.

Fellini's EGO is so gigantic that he thinks his "writer's Block" is actually important, relevant or interesting. It's mere self-indulgent stream of consciousness.

Trouble is of course it isn't REALLY stram of consciosness because this requires spontenaity and presumably Fellini had to cast actors, hire technicians write or have written a screenplay. So it isn't stream of consciousness.

Cinematography is average by today's standards, performances largely caricatures. None of them are relevant - the audience sure doesn't learn anything other than the guy is horny and has a creative block. A long philisophically trite speach to him toward the end is laughable philisophical psychobabble.

Thanks but if I want deep philisophical thought I'll read someone who is competant in the field. Aristotle, Thales, Socrates. Fellini wouldn't get out of a first year course.

Attack Hollywood? No thanks I will take the cotton candy for the brains Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back and laugh at the tongue in cheek sillyness and enjoy myself. Or a serious film about something of remote relevance like the War Zone.

And if I venture into philisophical film I'll watch Krysztof Kieslowski's Three Colours or Kirosawa's Shakespeare rippoffs like the Seven Samurai. At least if you're going to re-invent something it may as well be Shakespeare - Kirosawa actually makes moving heartfelt films...on that Hollywood did fail with Citizen Kane an emotionally void film with cinematography that is indeed impressive. Too bad it superceded the story and looks more like STUNT photography than actually serving the story. Oh but that's right it has a strike for having a story in the first place no?

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