In Reply to: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? posted by Corbu on March 15, 2004 at 17:25:40:
No there are still excellent films being made. Problem is that there are SO many more films being made each year. Just like the dreadful junk they made in the 50's we now get four times the dreadful junk. The B monster movies today are certainly better than the B monster movies of yester-year.There is no question that money plays a part but Ben Hur versus the Gladiator. Personally neither is particularly great...or even good. The fact that the Academy Awards don't help matters by picking Gladiator, Titanic, LOTR, A Beautiful Mind --- don't help. Though I respect the attempt in Titanic and the visuals(for the most part) and the attempted idea of having an invented story to follow.
The effects often overshadow the story. Frankly there are only about 7 core stories available. All movies sprout from those 7 stories. Tey've been done. You get mix and matches today and some like Pulp Fiction rise above what it copied. Then again Pulp wasn't Hollywood. I would say Goodfellas but it wasn't Hollywood either really.
Depends on your definition of great. Perhaps Platoon or JFK. And of course Spielberg is a separate ball game. Jaws, Raiders, E.T., Schindler's List, are all masterpieces. Star Wars could be viewed as revolutionary I suppose.
Just because the topics are not all heavy drama doesn't mean they aren't great. Philisophical depth is better in books - Hollywood prefers making masterful entertainments not film art. There is room for both at the cineplex.
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- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - RGA 18:16:38 03/15/04 (45)
- Re:Are S. Effects killing todays movies? - patrickU 05:21:35 03/16/04 (9)
- No argument from me... - RGA 21:53:14 03/17/04 (4)
- Re: The Bond films - rico 07:39:15 03/18/04 (0)
- Re: No argument from me... - patrickU 00:59:46 03/18/04 (2)
- Well here we agree... - RGA 21:34:47 03/19/04 (1)
- Re: Well here we agree...Is that good? - patrickU 02:27:22 03/20/04 (0)
- However,... - Victor Khomenko 18:09:39 03/16/04 (1)
- Re: However,... - patrickU 04:29:35 03/17/04 (0)
- Re:Are S. Effects killing todays movies? - Analog Scott 15:45:07 03/16/04 (1)
- Re: Yes, you would miss them. nt - patrickU 04:31:34 03/17/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 21:27:12 03/15/04 (34)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - RGA 22:10:49 03/17/04 (2)
- Re: The Sunshine may not be a very good film.... - patrickU 07:10:41 03/18/04 (1)
- Re: The Sunshine may not be a very good film.... - RGA 21:40:13 03/19/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Victor Khomenko 04:32:49 03/16/04 (30)
- Have to agree here. - Alex Yakovlev 14:00:38 03/16/04 (8)
- Re: C´mon be courageous: kaka. nt - patrickU 04:36:25 03/17/04 (7)
- I am! - Alex Yakovlev 06:04:12 03/17/04 (6)
- Re: I am! - patrickU 07:16:46 03/17/04 (3)
- Not really... - Alex Yakovlev 07:25:05 03/17/04 (2)
- Re: Not really... - patrickU 07:41:49 03/17/04 (1)
- Re: Not really... - Alex Yakovlev 08:47:17 03/17/04 (0)
- I think by now that completely insignificant work has taken enough of our time - Victor Khomenko 06:14:12 03/17/04 (1)
- Re: I think by now that completely insignificant work has taken enough of our time - patrickU 07:18:05 03/17/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 05:26:46 03/16/04 (20)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 08:35:31 03/16/04 (18)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 08:52:54 03/16/04 (17)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 13:18:53 03/16/04 (16)
- Re: And what did ever happend... - patrickU 13:47:16 03/16/04 (4)
- Re: And what did ever happend... - Analog Scott 18:22:48 03/16/04 (3)
- Re: And what did ever happend... - patrickU 04:35:30 03/17/04 (0)
- My mama taught me to respect all achievements - Victor Khomenko 18:41:50 03/16/04 (1)
- Re: My mama taught me to respect all achievements - Analog Scott 19:06:37 03/16/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 13:33:40 03/16/04 (10)
- OH Please. - RGA 22:34:24 03/17/04 (3)
- Re: OH Please. - patrickU 07:15:32 03/18/04 (2)
- Re: OH Please. - RGA 21:44:53 03/19/04 (1)
- Re: OH Please. - patrickU 02:08:08 03/20/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 13:45:03 03/16/04 (5)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 13:55:07 03/16/04 (4)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 14:04:32 03/16/04 (3)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 04:46:40 03/17/04 (0)
- Bad style - Victor Khomenko 14:47:43 03/16/04 (1)
- Re: Bad style - Analog Scott 15:29:51 03/16/04 (0)
- The Gladiator didn't even use the right sword! He used spatha!!!! - Victor Khomenko 06:03:23 03/16/04 (0)