In Reply to: Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? posted by patrickU on March 16, 2004 at 08:52:54:
"How so? Ok.
The movie start with some kind of bravour, but after a while it fails to develop any characters"You couldn't be furhter from the truth. The arc that Russel Crowe's character takes is epic. He goes from victorious general and favorite of the king to a slave to a favorite of the crowds in the games to the tragic hero. There was trmendous character development there. Lets look at Juaquine Phoenix's character. A very complex character that unfolds as a simple evil child of the king to a shrewd leader with a successful plan to bulster Romes self esteem to a complex intelegent person who was damaged beyond repair by his fathers expressions of dissatisfatcion. Lets look at Oliver Reed's character. A common slave owner at first glance with a rich history as a gladiator who won his freedom and a very human place in his heart for the plight of Russel Crow's character. So much so that he is willing to make the ultimate sacrifice.
"it just has no deeph,"
It is rich with depth as these characters stories are unfolded as they interact in the plot.
" you know from start on till the end what direction it will takes, just like on a trail,"
That is the nature of tragedies. Would you make the same complaint of Hamlet?
" no sub plot, just straight on."
Plenty of sub plots. The relationship between Juaquine Phoenix and his sister, The revelation of his relationship to his father. The revelation of the life Russel Crowe's character lived before the Empire took his own home country. That is just to name a few of them.
"A little of " Ben Hur " ( the love / hate relationship ) and " Braveheart " ( loss of familly )'You make these things sound trivial.
"Short but I think, precise.
PS: And the terrible Digital artifacts!!!!! ( colosseum ) Like the ship " Titanic this kind of images will grow older more that you think, and will definitvely spoil the few good parts of both of them."
I agree with this but many films have suffered the shortcomings of poor visual effects.
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- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 13:18:53 03/16/04 (16)
- Re: And what did ever happend... - patrickU 13:47:16 03/16/04 (4)
- Re: And what did ever happend... - Analog Scott 18:22:48 03/16/04 (3)
- Re: And what did ever happend... - patrickU 04:35:30 03/17/04 (0)
- My mama taught me to respect all achievements - Victor Khomenko 18:41:50 03/16/04 (1)
- Re: My mama taught me to respect all achievements - Analog Scott 19:06:37 03/16/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 13:33:40 03/16/04 (10)
- OH Please. - RGA 22:34:24 03/17/04 (3)
- Re: OH Please. - patrickU 07:15:32 03/18/04 (2)
- Re: OH Please. - RGA 21:44:53 03/19/04 (1)
- Re: OH Please. - patrickU 02:08:08 03/20/04 (0)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 13:45:03 03/16/04 (5)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 13:55:07 03/16/04 (4)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - Analog Scott 14:04:32 03/16/04 (3)
- Re: Good Hollywood movies/what happened? - patrickU 04:46:40 03/17/04 (0)
- Bad style - Victor Khomenko 14:47:43 03/16/04 (1)
- Re: Bad style - Analog Scott 15:29:51 03/16/04 (0)