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In Reply to: Re: A statement------------------------------------------ posted by patrickU on March 19, 2004 at 04:50:00:
I can accept what you've said.Look I don't care if people hate Erin Brokevich. I posted a credible argument as to why the film despite flaws worked for me. I don't despise Julia Roberts like some people do though. She is a star, which is different from an actress. Though I think she's underrated. Her performance in Notting Hill was certainly well suited.
The issue is I have yet to see you or Victor list 10 hollywood films you would consider GREAT films since 1990 that made significant dollars.
If you can't produce 10 then I have no need to discuss film with either of you on this forum any longer because you don't know good films.
If you can't recognize good RECENT films from Hollywood then you have a bias against an industry - PERIOD.
I don't care that people on individual films disagree. I liked Goodfellas a LOT more than the GOdfather which i found to be a 3 hour mob soap opera. A lot of Godfather fans dislike my comments...though I'd still say the Godfather was "good" movie it's just not a GREAT one to me. But if that person provided me their top 50 all time list chances are there would be some mighty impressive films on the list.
You have to look at the GENRE and the filmaker's goal...and judge the film off that. I don't hold a film Like Halloween to the same standard as a serious drama. I compare Hallween or a Dawn of the Dead (1979) to horror films as far back as the original Dracula or Nosferatu and everything since.
I don't call people idiots because they like Gladiator. The fellow below made a "GOOD" case for the character development in that film. I don't agree with him - I thought it was a poor film overall - but he made a good case I just didn't FEEL it when I saw it.
Roger Ebert I read because he makes a case for his views on films. Do you disagree with Roger Ebert on EVERY single film? Do you AGREE with him on EVERY single film? I can gaurantee you that in 90%+ he makes a VERY GOOD argument for why he liked or disliked a movie...He doesn't call Roeper an idiot for disagreeing with him. Or imply that people just need to see more films.
Ebert has seen more films than anyone on this forum knows more about the filmmaking process than anyone on this forum. And wouldn't you know it...If you look at his best 100 list - start counting the Hollywood films that ARE there asopposed to the foreign films that ARE NOT there.
Sure he has the Bicycle Thief no complaint from me though I think it's grossly overrated, and 8 1/2 which I think is well kaka. But Schindler's List Jaws E.T. Raiders are all there as well.
The difference between Victor and me is I appreciate more that the medium of film offers than he could possibly dream of. He has a miniscule itsy bitsy piece and copses off to eveything else.
Ebert takes a film to the film's intent and judges that. He doesn't say well I hate all horror movies therefore all horror movies are kaka.
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Follow Ups
- Ok - RGA 21:22:22 03/19/04 (6)
- Re: Ok - patrickU 08:15:25 03/20/04 (5)
- Re: Ok - RGA 12:25:38 03/20/04 (4)
- Re: Ok - patrickU 12:35:42 03/20/04 (3)
- Yes all ART ALL OF IT is subjective. - RGA 11:33:17 03/21/04 (2)
- Calling the Jaws a "masterpiece" cheapens the whole scale - Victor Khomenko 12:02:29 03/21/04 (1)
- WTF? - RGA 20:03:54 03/21/04 (0)
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