In Reply to: Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... posted by Gee LP on May 24, 2004 at 23:39:47:
There are different degree of political messages made by artists. Some are more humanistic or more philosophical, some related to more actual events.
And the last one is the more difficult to achieve, as too much catch and sqeezed in his own time. Of course there are exceptions!
I don´t think that Picasso´s " Guernica " is a good one. The intention very touching, the art...Not for me.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Michael Moore won the Cannes festival... - patrickU 11:34:32 05/22/04 (131)
- who gives a shit - Timbo in Oz 19:03:49 05/26/04 (7)
- He-he... Timbo... I didn't think you would get THIS pissed over Wellington! - Victor Khomenko 08:15:54 05/27/04 (6)
- He's not the Russian Messiah - Timbo in Oz 17:16:29 05/27/04 (5)
- military history IS a hobby of mine! - Timbo in Oz 17:41:20 05/27/04 (4)
- Man, you are shooting from all directions! - Victor Khomenko 18:32:28 05/27/04 (3)
- Victor! :-) - Timbo in Oz 19:21:58 05/28/04 (2)
- That sounds like the Model 1937 152mm howitzer - Victor Khomenko 07:20:23 05/29/04 (1)
- yes that's it, what the SU152 mounted, KV1 chassis - Timbo in Oz 15:43:21 05/29/04 (0)
- good for Mr. Moore....... - Ruben 09:44:35 05/24/04 (60)
- but bad for Cannes credibility - DWPC 10:52:18 05/25/04 (4)
- Re: Not obligatory so... - patrickU 13:20:44 05/25/04 (0)
- I have not seen the movie yet...... - Ruben 11:35:38 05/25/04 (2)
- Cannes is supposed to hold a higher standard than Hollywood - DWPC 13:02:06 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: I have not seen the movie yet...... - Victor Khomenko 11:39:22 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: good for Mr. Moore....... - patrickU 05:07:07 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: good for Mr. Moore....... - Victor Khomenko 15:31:03 05/24/04 (53)
- I did not know you don't like liberals........ - Ruben 19:36:36 05/28/04 (2)
- Interesting... where did I say I was upset? - Victor Khomenko 07:04:15 05/29/04 (1)
- Hey, Victor... you are well known around here........ - Ruben 08:10:11 05/29/04 (0)
- huh? - RGA 10:21:36 05/25/04 (0)
- hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Ruben 16:19:23 05/24/04 (48)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Victor Khomenko 16:39:19 05/24/04 (47)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - RGA 10:25:24 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Gee LP 23:39:47 05/24/04 (31)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Victor Khomenko 06:10:57 05/25/04 (29)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Analog Scott 17:35:18 05/25/04 (23)
- Oh, yeah? - Victor Khomenko 06:15:31 05/26/04 (22)
- Re: Oh, yeah? - Analog Scott 08:56:55 05/26/04 (21)
- Talk about a non-response "response" - Victor Khomenko 09:01:28 05/26/04 (20)
- Re: Talk about a non-response "response" - Analog Scott 09:41:19 05/26/04 (19)
- Just can't stop laughing... sorry, Scott! - Victor Khomenko 10:32:37 05/26/04 (14)
- Re: Pizza! Victor!!! nt - patrickU 11:15:16 05/26/04 (4)
- Imagine coming home for lunch, but finding no food on the table... - Victor Khomenko 13:01:49 05/26/04 (3)
- Re: Imagine coming home for lunch, but finding no food on the table... - patrickU 03:05:03 05/27/04 (2)
- I think this is all us men need - the art... - Victor Khomenko 06:10:58 05/27/04 (1)
- Re: I think this is all us men need - the art... - patrickU 06:22:55 05/27/04 (0)
- Re: Just can't stop laughing... sorry, Scott! - Analog Scott 10:54:27 05/26/04 (8)
- Re: Just can't stop laughing... sorry, Scott! - Victor Khomenko 11:13:47 05/26/04 (7)
- Re: Just can't stop laughing... sorry, Scott! - Analog Scott 12:07:36 05/26/04 (6)
- But you are wrong... of course - Victor Khomenko 12:19:50 05/26/04 (5)
- Re: But you are wrong... of course - Analog Scott 13:32:47 05/26/04 (4)
- Re: Don´t get personal....Bad.... nt - patrickU 04:12:07 05/27/04 (0)
- Re: But you are wrong... of course - Victor Khomenko 13:48:54 05/26/04 (2)
- Re: But you are wrong... of course - Analog Scott 13:56:07 05/26/04 (1)
- Re: But you are wrong... of course - Victor Khomenko 14:21:09 05/26/04 (0)
- Time for you to do some work, for a change. - Victor Khomenko 10:00:57 05/26/04 (3)
- Re: Time for you to do some work, for a change. - Analog Scott 10:51:35 05/26/04 (2)
- Re: Time for you to do some work, for a change. - Victor Khomenko 11:14:30 05/26/04 (1)
- Re: Time for you to do some work, for a change. - Analog Scott 12:02:49 05/26/04 (0)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Gee LP 11:53:25 05/25/04 (4)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Victor Khomenko 12:13:48 05/25/04 (3)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - Gee LP 12:56:49 05/25/04 (2)
- Some observations - Victor Khomenko 14:30:34 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: Good and fair post. That makes fun! nt - patrickU 13:25:54 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - patrickU 05:21:23 05/25/04 (0)
- that is a naive attitude......... - Ruben 16:59:43 05/24/04 (13)
- "Movies like the ones Mr. Moore are definelely art becauses..." - Victor Khomenko 17:23:55 05/24/04 (12)
- yes if someone makes a movie, paint, writes a book, etc.... - Ruben 08:16:33 05/25/04 (11)
- Re: yes if someone makes a movie, paint, writes a book, etc.... - Victor Khomenko 08:20:25 05/25/04 (10)
- Re: yes if someone makes a movie, paint, writes a book, etc.... - Analog Scott 17:40:31 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: yes if someone makes a movie, paint, writes a book, etc.... - patrickU 10:22:29 05/25/04 (0)
- how about the silly americans than stop calling french fries.... - Ruben 08:29:17 05/25/04 (7)
- Re: how about the silly americans than stop calling french fries.... - Victor Khomenko 08:43:52 05/25/04 (6)
- Re: French Fries - rico 10:08:44 05/25/04 (0)
- I read . . . - Troy 08:59:55 05/25/04 (3)
- How does that matter? - Victor Khomenko 09:21:52 05/25/04 (2)
- I mentioned it because . . . - Troy 11:05:30 05/25/04 (1)
- Re: I mentioned it because . . . - patrickU 13:31:29 05/25/04 (0)
- don't you love the discussion?......... nt - Ruben 08:46:15 05/25/04 (0)
- Huh! I was told that Disney had "blocked" its distribution. nt - clarkjohnsen 05:32:32 05/23/04 (7)
- The mouse got caught in the trap Michael Moore set. - Audiophilander 09:46:19 05/23/04 (5)
- Re: Masterful? - patrickU 10:43:45 05/23/04 (4)
- Re: Moore Masterful Than Bush? - Jeff Starrs 04:14:18 05/24/04 (3)
- Re: Moore Masterful Than Bush? - Victor Khomenko 15:33:17 05/24/04 (1)
- Re: Don't worry, Vic... - Jeff Starrs 04:43:56 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: Moore or less...nt - patrickU 04:37:04 05/24/04 (0)
- Re: Weinstein´s have it. Peek at the Outside.....nt - patrickU 05:36:36 05/23/04 (0)
- Only one other 'documentary' - gwlvrns 19:13:45 05/22/04 (1)
- Re: Le Silence de la Mer, it could be I think...nt - patrickU 00:26:32 05/23/04 (0)
- the most annoying, self-important, manipulative, F*%K'd in the head - Jon L 18:20:29 05/22/04 (25)
- Arguing about Moore - Troy 11:12:24 05/24/04 (14)
- Well, as an old law professor used to tell us, "if it's 99% correct, then it's 100% incorrect...... - Chris Garrett 20:30:28 05/24/04 (0)
- Wouldn't a solution of 10% anti-freeze and 90% Kool-aid be bad for you? - clbeanz 12:32:39 05/24/04 (12)
- Sure, but . . . - Troy 14:31:21 05/24/04 (11)
- Not a good statement at all - Victor Khomenko 15:43:31 05/24/04 (10)
- It's all about context, Vic - Troy 20:59:13 05/24/04 (9)
- The best lies always contain a grain of truth (mt) - Rod M 06:42:46 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: It's all about context, Vic - Victor Khomenko 06:15:10 05/25/04 (7)
- Fine, but . . . - Troy 07:40:16 05/25/04 (6)
- You are deaf... I suspect... - Victor Khomenko 07:54:07 05/25/04 (5)
- Re: Is this not tiring Victor? - patrickU 10:31:20 05/25/04 (2)
- Exactly... after making ten circles I feel like changing the game. - Victor Khomenko 10:34:40 05/25/04 (1)
- Re: Ha ha.....nt - patrickU 10:52:22 05/25/04 (0)
- Why does it always degenerate to name calling with you? - Troy 09:11:06 05/25/04 (1)
- OK, so you ARE deaf... consider this a name. - Victor Khomenko 09:24:56 05/25/04 (0)
- What are some factual errors and/or untruths? - Bambi B 23:33:56 05/23/04 (5)
- Re: What are some factual errors and/or untruths? - padreken 13:13:30 05/24/04 (4)
- A question no one seems to be able to answer . . . - Troy 14:42:47 05/24/04 (3)
- A couple of other links - padreken 16:10:12 05/24/04 (2)
- Re: A couple of other links - Troy 22:35:05 05/24/04 (0)
- the National Review is hardly and unbiased publication...nice try though (nt) - TWB 21:20:27 05/24/04 (0)
- I heard the critic from the London Observer on NPR last night..... - Chris Garrett 20:08:23 05/23/04 (1)
- Re: I heard the critic from the London Observer on NPR last night..... - patrickU 01:05:58 05/24/04 (0)
- For a second there, I thought you were referring to Dubya (nt) - PdL 01:44:36 05/23/04 (0)
- Re: the most annoying, self-important, manipulative, F*%K'd in the head - ephemere 18:39:28 05/22/04 (0)
- Is there a category for fiction pretending to be fact? - Rod M 17:10:48 05/22/04 (7)
- Yes, but the Faux Network didn't enter a documentary from it's news division this year. (nt) - Audiophilander 09:49:42 05/23/04 (0)
- Have you actually seen the film? - danj 21:54:56 05/22/04 (1)
- People traditionally don't actually see films they wish to protest (nt) - Analog Scott 22:05:35 05/22/04 (0)
- the old-fashioned word is propaganda nt - Alex S 20:27:35 05/22/04 (0)
- Sure, it's called the cable asylum. (nt) - sjb 17:28:12 05/22/04 (2)
- :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) nt - Alex S 20:18:46 05/22/04 (0)
- Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha... - gwlvrns 19:10:10 05/22/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore won the Cannes festival... - ephemere 13:46:42 05/22/04 (14)
- Re: Michael Moore won the Cannes festival... - patrickU 13:58:53 05/22/04 (13)
- Re: " a political move for freedom from France to the USA" - Rob Doorack 09:53:38 05/23/04 (10)
- Re: " a political move for freedom from France to the USA" - Victor Khomenko 19:34:40 05/24/04 (4)
- You still owe me an apology for your heinous libel, you candyass coward (nt) - Rob Doorack 07:09:00 05/25/04 (3)
- Learn to behave in a civilized society... children might be listening (nt) - Victor Khomenko 07:18:19 05/25/04 (2)
- How polite of you! That´s a good boy! (nt) - orejones 12:01:15 05/25/04 (0)
- Act like a man for once in your life and apologize, coward (nt) - Rob Doorack 07:52:10 05/25/04 (0)
- Re: " a political move for freedom from France to the USA" - patrickU 10:18:23 05/23/04 (4)
- Re: "Do you think that it was the BEST film of the festival" - Rob Doorack 11:55:14 05/23/04 (3)
- Re: "Do you think that it was the BEST film of the festival" - patrickU 01:02:00 05/24/04 (0)
- Re: "Do you think that it was the BEST film of the festival" - patrickU 13:01:17 05/23/04 (0)
- Re: "Do you think that it was the BEST film of the festival" - patrickU 12:56:59 05/23/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore won the Cannes festival... - ephemere 14:50:40 05/22/04 (1)
- He won't care *n - clbeanz 12:45:57 05/22/04 (2)
- Re: He won't care *n ??? - patrickU 13:23:27 05/22/04 (1)
- Sorry Patrick, I was to mean Bush would not care - clbeanz 12:37:18 05/24/04 (0)
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- Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general...... - patrickU 05:21:23 05/25/04 (0)