"Uh, who took whose property?"

Posted by RGA (R) on May 8, 2006 at 06:13:05

In Reply to: "As usual...". Thanks, RGA. Lucky to have you posted by tinear on May 7, 2006 at 08:22:04:

Well maybe it is you who needs a primer in history.

You are seeing the problem with today's eyes and a David and Goliath battle and it's always good to root for David in such battles. But yo forget that the rest of the story was not told -- 20 years later when Goliath has been beaten and now pleads poor me poor me when he started the fight in the first place.

Israel has done some pretty dumb things -- well dumb if people consider a live and let live philosophy. Every olive branch to the Arab world has been cut down -- I am positively amazed at how patient Israel has been and still is. The left wing view (which I personally lean toward) though has met with disasterous results and allowed a an Arab revisionist propaganda machine to roll on quite well.Israel has never engaged in an offensive war in that region (unless you count the air attack on Hussein's Nuclear weapons factory in which Hussein had SAID he would nuke Israel. Personally I call that a defensive tactic.

"Now, see "Paradise Now" and report back."

I don't watch films for my history thank you. Though I will note filmakers who use film as propaganda. When this thread started I rewatched Munich.

The film is about athletes who have nothing to do with war get wholesale slaughtered for a political stunt. And the Jews deciding to react. Spielberg's movie shows WHY the reaction was a BAD one. Precisely because it serves no purpose. Every member that Avner and his revenge squad killed was replaced by someone else maybe and often someone worse.

The last shot of the film shows the Twin Towers. The same thing - They hit us we hit back and what does it serve what will it serve?

As for the history -- if anything Israel should do a better job at getting the history out there more because I don't see how Palestine can be viewed as the moral "good guy" here.

http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html (Open in New Window)

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Topic - Munich DVD (a real surprise) - Duilawyer 07:40:49 05/06/06 (23)

Interesting that they got they jaws jacked by CIA guys shadowing the villinati. * - mr grits 16:39:22 05/06/06 (4)

If true, given the US's history of loving a variety of despot's & terrorist's, it's not at all surprising. nt - sjb 22:51:23 05/06/06 (3)

Yeah. We even fought a war alongside Josef Stalin, the second worst ever. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:26:52 05/08/06 (1)

Which was the worst war then? nt - dave c 16:09:03 05/12/06 (0)

I don't recall that incident being in the HBO version: The Sword of Gideon . . * - mr grits 16:17:11 05/07/06 (0)

Conveniently left out that these Israeli assassins - tinear 14:29:18 05/06/06 (15)

Here's the info on the Mossad "mistake:" - tinear 14:38:01 05/06/06 (14)

As usual you miss the point. - RGA 05:47:29 05/07/06 (13)

"As usual...". Thanks, RGA. Lucky to have you - tinear 08:22:04 05/07/06 (12)

Arab Propaganda always fails to note the - ArdRi 06:23:40 05/08/06 (5)

Wait a minute, please . . . - townsend 16:04:44 05/08/06 (0)

"They've believed the Creator of Heaven and Earth put them there for over 4,000 years." Hmm... - clarkjohnsen 14:24:55 05/08/06 (0)

exactly the problem - dave c 14:15:46 05/08/06 (2)

Well it's a scary world... - RGA 05:25:28 05/09/06 (1)

Actually, it's usually money with religion and or ideology as the public excuse. nt - sjb 06:54:11 05/09/06 (0)

"Uh, who took whose property?" - RGA 06:13:05 05/08/06 (4)

Goliath is... the Palestinians? - tinear 12:16:26 05/08/06 (3)

Re: Goliath is... the Palestinians? - RGA 05:15:14 05/09/06 (2)

RGA, you're just plain nuts. - tinear 16:14:04 05/10/06 (1)

Re: RGA, you're just plain nuts. - RGA 05:22:56 05/11/06 (0)

In Isreal/Palestine as in Ireland... - dave c 14:26:25 05/07/06 (0)

I found it very unconvincing - dave c 13:50:46 05/06/06 (1)

Re: I found it very unconvincing - PdL 16:53:11 05/06/06 (0)

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"Uh, who took whose property?" - RGA 06:13:05 05/08/06 (4)

Goliath is... the Palestinians? - tinear 12:16:26 05/08/06 (3)

Re: Goliath is... the Palestinians? - RGA 05:15:14 05/09/06 (2)

RGA, you're just plain nuts. - tinear 16:14:04 05/10/06 (1)

Re: RGA, you're just plain nuts. - RGA 05:22:56 05/11/06 (0)

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