Re: Goliath is... the Palestinians?

Posted by RGA (R) on May 9, 2006 at 05:15:14

In Reply to: Goliath is... the Palestinians? posted by tinear on May 8, 2006 at 12:16:26:

Firstly -- you didn't read the link I provided which is obvious. Jews were in fact "there first" David are the Jews (Israelies) outnumber more than 50-1. Despite those odds they overcame the Arabs for the land that was originally theirs lost and then essentially given back to them by the United Nations. Arafat can claim they want the land for "religious" or historical reasons until he and his followers are blue in the face -- but it is an OUTRIGHT LIE. They concocted that phony balony rubbish as an excuse to gain world wide support. And it has worked to some extent.

The Jews are not clean handed -- after Munich (as Spielberg includes by the way) Israel bombed Palestine as a "reaction" Umm just like GWB bombed Iraq as a reaction to 9/11. And it sure didn;t get rid of terrorism. (Though at least in Israel's defense -- they attacked the right enemy).

"Anyhow, someone comes to your town, RG, orders everyone out of their homes, shoots those who refuse or pretty much destroys the town if there's widespread resistance."

I don't get it -- this is what the Arab's did to the Jews -- so are you sure you know which side your on?

We can go back and forth about this but land lost in war is LOST period. If we're talking about the morality of that then the United States and Canada should give the land back to the FIrst Nations -- they were here first and we took their land and their possessions. Israel created their state as a defense of people coming into their homes and slaughtering them. They finally said enough is bloody well enough.

They usually say that history is written by the victors and history is often not agreed upon depending who is doing the writing and WHEN the writing is being done.

And one thing I learned when getting my history degree was that the saying "It is important to learn history or else you are doomed to repeat it" is a fallacy. Most of societies' poweful who know their history learn how to do a better more discreet job of slaughtering people.

So I would far rather focus on the now. And whether someone believes that Israel is in the "right" or Palestine is in the "right" is totally irrelevant because neither of them agree with the other. The FACT is that Israel is a State and it is NOT going anywhere -- just like Canada and America are countries and all the First Nations complaining about it does not change the fact. I can sympathyze with them but at some point one has to accept the reality of the now. Israel IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE either by request or by force. Israel has offerred to "share" the land to stop the terrorism. Palestine and the rest of the anti-Jew states don;t want to share. What is interesting is the size of Israel and the size of the rest of the area. Look at the map -- Israel is a pittance of a country -- Palestians can "move away" to one of the neighbors without getting gassed. Israelies can't.

My idea would be to have an independant country such as Japan split right down the center a 20 mile wide zone under Japanese control (though UN financed) -- It would be a kind of super Berlin Wall).

It's either that division or something that ex PM Netanyahu suggested to stop terrorists.

He proposed a terrorist punishment program. If they find a terrorist or his or her remains and identify you -- then they would retaliate by killing every member of the terrorist's family.

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Topic - Munich DVD (a real surprise) - Duilawyer 07:40:49 05/06/06 (23)

Interesting that they got they jaws jacked by CIA guys shadowing the villinati. * - mr grits 16:39:22 05/06/06 (4)

If true, given the US's history of loving a variety of despot's & terrorist's, it's not at all surprising. nt - sjb 22:51:23 05/06/06 (3)

Yeah. We even fought a war alongside Josef Stalin, the second worst ever. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:26:52 05/08/06 (1)

Which was the worst war then? nt - dave c 16:09:03 05/12/06 (0)

I don't recall that incident being in the HBO version: The Sword of Gideon . . * - mr grits 16:17:11 05/07/06 (0)

Conveniently left out that these Israeli assassins - tinear 14:29:18 05/06/06 (15)

Here's the info on the Mossad "mistake:" - tinear 14:38:01 05/06/06 (14)

As usual you miss the point. - RGA 05:47:29 05/07/06 (13)

"As usual...". Thanks, RGA. Lucky to have you - tinear 08:22:04 05/07/06 (12)

Arab Propaganda always fails to note the - ArdRi 06:23:40 05/08/06 (5)

Wait a minute, please . . . - townsend 16:04:44 05/08/06 (0)

"They've believed the Creator of Heaven and Earth put them there for over 4,000 years." Hmm... - clarkjohnsen 14:24:55 05/08/06 (0)

exactly the problem - dave c 14:15:46 05/08/06 (2)

Well it's a scary world... - RGA 05:25:28 05/09/06 (1)

Actually, it's usually money with religion and or ideology as the public excuse. nt - sjb 06:54:11 05/09/06 (0)

"Uh, who took whose property?" - RGA 06:13:05 05/08/06 (4)

Goliath is... the Palestinians? - tinear 12:16:26 05/08/06 (3)

Re: Goliath is... the Palestinians? - RGA 05:15:14 05/09/06 (2)

RGA, you're just plain nuts. - tinear 16:14:04 05/10/06 (1)

Re: RGA, you're just plain nuts. - RGA 05:22:56 05/11/06 (0)

In Isreal/Palestine as in Ireland... - dave c 14:26:25 05/07/06 (0)

I found it very unconvincing - dave c 13:50:46 05/06/06 (1)

Re: I found it very unconvincing - PdL 16:53:11 05/06/06 (0)

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Re: Goliath is... the Palestinians? - RGA 05:15:14 05/09/06 (2)

RGA, you're just plain nuts. - tinear 16:14:04 05/10/06 (1)

Re: RGA, you're just plain nuts. - RGA 05:22:56 05/11/06 (0)

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