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RE: Thanks, Dave, for the informative, and courteous,

On the other hand, by all accounts, Britain is more of a birth society. You are born into a class, and that is where you will stay. If you are Black, for example, there is not much upward mobility. If you are born poor, that is likely where you will stay. The concept of a Carnegie, for example, would be impossible there. There is no British equivalent of an Obama, or Condoleezza Rice, who parents were sharecroppers in the South, or Gonzalez (without regard to his foibles), whose parents were hispanic immigrants.

How many faces of color are in Parliament? House of Commons? The Prime Minister's cabinet? No country is perfect, but I'll take the U.S.s scientific achievements over any other country. While we have health care issues, I'll take the quality of the U.S. doctor and the facilities over any other country.

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