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In Reply to: You're thinking of old Britain. If you'd care to start a conversation posted by tinear on August 29, 2007 at 15:48:33:
"about upward mobility in "outside asylum" I'd join in."
Well, your prior post had nothing to do with "films", and probably also belonged in Outside, but since you jumped in, I saw no issue with me doing the same.
"You're thinking of old Britain"
No. England still has a Queen, and someday a King. They earn those titles, and riches that come with the title, simply by being born, having done nothing to earn the riches. Now, the U.S. has its share of trust fund children, but the difference is there it is, to a great extent, a state subsidized institution, whereas here, it is not.
"You really aren't making your case by pointing to a few high profile Americans, are you?"
There are many more. Those are the ones that came to me quickly. The point stands, though, how many people of color are given the reigns to lead the English government? How many of those people leading the English government have been culled from the lower classes? Could some like Rice, the daughter of sharecroppers from the South, raise to the pinnacle of the English Government. They have had several hundred years of a head start, and I doubt you can find someone in English history akin to Rice. Or Colin Powell. Or Gonzalez. No doubt you can go back to prior administrations, or a variety of state governments.
Dave appears to agree that England is still a country preoccupied with class. I suspect that if the Senate, House, and Governor's mansions in the U.S. were all lilly white protestants, you would be blasting the U.S. England, though, gets a pass.
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Follow Ups
- RE: You're thinking of old Britain. If you'd care to start a conversation - jamesgarvin 16:20:45 08/29/07 (7)
- What about about that groucer´s daughter, Iron Maiden, aka Margaret Thatcher? (nt) - orejones 10:40:07 08/30/07 (0)
- But the USA elects a king every 4 years - dave c 18:50:50 08/29/07 (3)
- RE: But the USA elects a king every 4 years - jamesgarvin 07:00:24 08/30/07 (2)
- The rule of one - dave c 13:34:31 08/30/07 (0)
- "Elect is the operative word here." I´d rather say "The USA is bought a king every 4 years" (nt) - orejones 10:42:31 08/30/07 (0)
- You persist in arguing from a specific thinking it proves some larger point: - tinear 17:38:50 08/29/07 (1)
- RE: You persist in arguing from a specific thinking it proves some larger point: - jamesgarvin 07:02:43 08/30/07 (0)
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