I take Noe's work seriously....

Posted by afilado (A) on December 4, 2008 at 09:39:40

In Reply to: "I Stand Alone" seemed to me to be more about posted by tinear on December 4, 2008 at 08:09:46:

No question, it's awfully difficult for a "sane" person to appreciate. Who, then, is he making them for, the "insane"? That thinking has nowhere to go.

Noe is an artist of the absurd, absent humor and sympathy, his work showing scant love except in the sheer making of it. Perversity is laid out perversely, yet honorably.

I think his aim is the same as Haneke's. To shine light on something deeply personal. One can certainly argue relative success.

Noe's butcher is little different from Benny, he's just more stupid and crude. Less able to be creative. They're both natives (and prisoners) of that realm of evil not chosen (actually aren't we all, to some extent). Both are mad but only in the eyes of the fit observer. Inside their world there is a normalcy of one. They live.

How is it that one is so repelled by some particular behavior of another? It's because we recognize our own capacity for it. If that weren't the case, the objectionable behavior would pass unseen.

The degree of revulsion or rejection one feels for the acts (or depictions) of another is a measure of..............what? Normalcy, morality, goodness?

Noe is difficult but, he too, lives.

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Topic - "The Seventh Continent:" if there is a director alive making creepier films, - tinear 18:52:55 12/02/08 (10)

Also see.... - afilado 20:26:28 12/03/08 (9)

"I Stand Alone" seemed to me to be more about - tinear 08:09:46 12/04/08 (6)

I take Noe's work seriously.... - afilado 09:39:40 12/04/08 (5)

I can appreciate your admiration of his work, - tinear 12:01:25 12/04/08 (4)

I didn't say I admired his work... - afilado 14:53:57 12/04/08 (3)

I think you hit upon it. Haneke appears to try, in his editing, - tinear 15:39:51 12/04/08 (2)

Real people do real violence ...... - afilado 17:31:07 12/04/08 (1)

If Hirst were Noe he'd throw people into the live shark's aquarium and THEN - tinear 22:41:02 12/04/08 (0)

I shudder to remember I Stand Alone - PhilJ 05:56:37 12/04/08 (1)

Yes, Phil...... - afilado 08:42:06 12/04/08 (0)

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I take Noe's work seriously.... - afilado 09:39:40 12/04/08 (5)

I can appreciate your admiration of his work, - tinear 12:01:25 12/04/08 (4)

I didn't say I admired his work... - afilado 14:53:57 12/04/08 (3)

I think you hit upon it. Haneke appears to try, in his editing, - tinear 15:39:51 12/04/08 (2)

Real people do real violence ...... - afilado 17:31:07 12/04/08 (1)

If Hirst were Noe he'd throw people into the live shark's aquarium and THEN - tinear 22:41:02 12/04/08 (0)

I take Noe's work seriously....

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