I think you hit upon it. Haneke appears to try, in his editing,

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Posted by tinear (A) on December 4, 2008 at 15:39:51

In Reply to: I didn't say I admired his work... posted by afilado on December 4, 2008 at 14:53:57:

to give a reason whereas Noe just depicts incredible violence and hatred. We sit and watch, like some spectator outside numbly watching and not interceding in some prolonged violent assault.
We all know the depths of human behavior, we have seen it. Merely to show it, therefore, isn't intellectually rigorous, demanding. It is easy. I'd argue art never can be. Noe's films don't challenge the viewer, unless it is to sit still for the visual assault. We are victimized as much as the character and I, frankly, don' like the feeling.
"Vamypr" is highly stylized and the violence serves the purpose of the story. All crimes are different and, yet, the same. Noe only shows the latter fact.

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Topic - "The Seventh Continent:" if there is a director alive making creepier films, - tinear 18:52:55 12/02/08 (10)

Also see.... - afilado 20:26:28 12/03/08 (9)

"I Stand Alone" seemed to me to be more about - tinear 08:09:46 12/04/08 (6)

I take Noe's work seriously.... - afilado 09:39:40 12/04/08 (5)

I can appreciate your admiration of his work, - tinear 12:01:25 12/04/08 (4)

I didn't say I admired his work... - afilado 14:53:57 12/04/08 (3)

I think you hit upon it. Haneke appears to try, in his editing, - tinear 15:39:51 12/04/08 (2)

Real people do real violence ...... - afilado 17:31:07 12/04/08 (1)

If Hirst were Noe he'd throw people into the live shark's aquarium and THEN - tinear 22:41:02 12/04/08 (0)

I shudder to remember I Stand Alone - PhilJ 05:56:37 12/04/08 (1)

Yes, Phil...... - afilado 08:42:06 12/04/08 (0)

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I think you hit upon it. Haneke appears to try, in his editing, - tinear 15:39:51 12/04/08 (2)

Real people do real violence ...... - afilado 17:31:07 12/04/08 (1)

If Hirst were Noe he'd throw people into the live shark's aquarium and THEN - tinear 22:41:02 12/04/08 (0)

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