RE: Can't see the forrest for the trees?

Posted by Jazz Inmate (A) on February 26, 2008 at 15:19:41

In Reply to: Can't see the forrest for the trees? posted by Jack G on February 26, 2008 at 05:39:09:

>> I did think it through. If someone already has a player, its already on the shelf-why shouldn't people continue to use them? <<

No, you didn't think it through. If someone wants to rent or buy HD movies, they will need a Blu-ray player, so they will want to get rid of the HD DVD player so as not to keep two machines that try to do the same thing on their shelves. The only exception is those who have the LG universal machines, but few sold.

>> Gotta link specifically proving that? <<

You need a link to prove that 2008-2009 is a few months away? You said that's the time frame in which Universal will produce for BD their currently HD DVD-exclusive titles. I suspect some could come this summer. We'll see.

>> No, I'm advocating people buy *movies* they like, you are stressing about formats. <<

Sorry, but I've gotta call BS on that. You have never recommended a DVD in recent memory or a Blu-ray, both of which have more titles than HD DVD, which you do advocate quite often. So you are indeed stressing about formats, and you are giving bad advice.

>> I'm interested in the message, you are focused on the messenger. <<

Not true, or you'd still be watching VHS or DVD. You're interested in high definition, and the only high resolution format going forward is now blu-ray. So I suggest you reevaluate your "interests".

>> We don't know when or even IF some of these titles will be on BD. <<

It would be very surprising if those titles didn't come out on BD and unless you know for a fact they won't, you probably shouldn't be advocating HD DVDs.

>> A quick look at BD titles that were delayed or canceled makes that REAL clear. Promises from BD aren't worth very much. If its not announced, and sometimes even if it is, its not a sure thing.<<

Oh, for goodness sake, would you stop? How many times have SACDs, CDs, DVDs, HD DVDs, games, and all manner of media been delayed? One gets the impression you would spin anything against BD, if given any opportunity.

>> Should I get rid of my Oppo, meaning I'ld have to get rid of all of my non-R1 DVDs, just to save shelf space? <<

Prediction: you'll be upgrading to the Oppo Blu-ray player before long.

>> Contrary to your Black and White mentality, the two are not mutually exclusive. <<

HD DVD is dead. If you want your HD collection to grow, you'll have to expand your BD collection. You really want to keep the Toshiba around just to play what will be a woefully small percentage of your library in short order? That's just a fact, and it has nothing to do with my mentality or yours.

>> This isn't about HD DVD Vs. BD. Its time for you to move on from that.
I tell people to buy what they want. You tell people to buy what YOU want. <<

It's not about me or you and given that there is only a very small selection of titles on BD and HD DVD, it's not even about what people want. The only reason I want to buy something is if it's worth buying. I'm average enough that if it's worth buying for me, it's worth buying for others, and by the same token, if it's not worth buying for me, it's not worth buying for others. Clearly, HD DVD falls into the latter category, because even if one or two titles might pique your interest, it's unwise to start buying vaporware.
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Topic - Amazon currently has many HD-DVD titles for 50% off - Christine Tham 00:06:37 02/24/08 (32)

The more you invest, the harder the pain when your last working HD DVD player craps out. - oscar 05:13:51 02/26/08 (12)

Anyone who "invests" in a consumer media format is a fool - racerguy 08:55:58 02/26/08 (11)

Nonsense...You invest in media that will be supported - Jazz Inmate 23:36:35 02/27/08 (8)

I wouldn't buy a Blu-ray player right now at any price. - jsm 18:21:15 03/02/08 (5)

I'll remind you of that in a few months when Sony and Universal are releasing dozens of catalog titles on BD - Jazz Inmate 22:06:06 03/03/08 (0)

I can play every Blu-ray disc I own... - oscar 09:45:15 03/03/08 (3)

Good luck in the future, then. - jsm 13:30:39 03/03/08 (2)

At worst, he won't be able to play the bonus materials and PIP features - Jazz Inmate 22:08:41 03/03/08 (1)

You mean there's more to movie watching than "just" watching the movie ? - oscar 05:09:52 03/04/08 (0)

"to spend even 1 cent on the format" - Jack G 07:17:26 02/29/08 (1)

So buy it on DVD if you don't care about the format...you'll save even more NT - Jazz Inmate 23:56:45 02/29/08 (0)

Post of the day :-) (nt) - Jack G 09:34:22 02/26/08 (1)

I agree, Racerguy makes some very good points (nt) - Ole Lund Christensen 10:07:37 02/26/08 (0)

another outstanding deal-the 4 disc Planet Earth set for $29.99 - padreken 13:01:05 02/24/08 (2)

That's the one with Sigourney Weaver narrating, not David Attenborough... - Russell 22:36:10 02/24/08 (1)

The US version is also shorter-edited for time. (nt) - Jack G 05:43:22 02/25/08 (0)

i always wanted some coasters NT - Jazz Inmate 09:48:22 02/24/08 (15)

But don't you want blue ones to match your pompoms? (nt) - Audiophilander 00:29:31 02/25/08 (1)

your gravedigging is duly noted - Jazz Inmate 22:18:32 02/25/08 (0)

You'll never give up, will you! (nt) - jsm 16:17:02 02/24/08 (12)

Give up what? What the heck are you HD DVD guys still talking about. It's over - Jazz Inmate 16:45:09 02/24/08 (11)

not every topic necessitates your trying to prove you are smart. - Duilawyer 19:12:39 02/25/08 (1)

Oh, cut the crap - Jazz Inmate 22:14:34 02/25/08 (0)

Not surprisingly, you miss the point. - Jack G 05:05:10 02/25/08 (8)

After championing a failed format for months, you may not be hitting the points you think you are - Jazz Inmate 14:31:38 02/25/08 (6)

Can't see the forrest for the trees? - Jack G 05:39:09 02/26/08 (3)

RE: Can't see the forrest for the trees? - Jazz Inmate 15:19:41 02/26/08 (2)

RE: Can't see the forrest for the trees? - Jack G 16:50:47 02/26/08 (1)

RE: Can't see the forrest for the trees? - Jazz Inmate 12:36:16 02/27/08 (0)

We got the memo; you can quit wearing the blue spandex anytime now. - Audiophilander 18:41:32 02/25/08 (1)

well at least you'll have a nice coaster set, so you won't damage your cheap tables NT - Jazz Inmate 22:19:38 02/25/08 (0)

RE: Not surprisingly, you miss the point. - ontrack2@gmail.com 10:12:42 02/25/08 (0)

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RE: Can't see the forrest for the trees? - Jack G 16:50:47 02/26/08 (1)

RE: Can't see the forrest for the trees? - Jazz Inmate 12:36:16 02/27/08 (0)

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