In Reply to: Re: YOU again! nt posted by patrickU on January 28, 2004 at 09:42:24:
:o)My wife may or may not respond to Victor's nice rebuttal, but as gentlemanly as it is, and I'm sure that she will appreciate that aspect of it if she takes time from her schedule to read it, I thought his remarks smacked of condescension. We are both fully aware of the plethora of films produced over the past 100 years and respect artistry from every locale, period and inspired Director. OTOH, there are many films that are what Roxanne and I both tend to regard as pretentious crap (i.e., at least, for us these films turned out to be a waste of time; YMMV), and most of this boring cinema doesn't originate from Hollywood by a long shot!
In other words, much of Victor's "hystorical achievements in the art of movie making" are assessed on a subjective basis. We might differ on what those achievements are and how relevent they are on the context of the history of cinema. Personally, I think The Lord of The Rings trilogy will eventually be viewed as classics, treasures for generations to come, and be highly regarded as a cinema milestone for translating what was regarded as an unfilmable work, cult-like in it's following, into a popular accessible epic with a worldwide audience.
How these works will stand against Fellini, Bergman, Eisenstein, Renoir, Bresson, etc., remains to be seen, but to write something off as being trite simply because it comes from Hollywood, or in the case of LoTR from New Zealand, and appeals to a mass audience, is the epitome of egotistical, elitist attitude. Ignoring the fact that a film series has touched so many people in a positive manner and trying to nit-pick it to death with innuendoes about non-existent racism, homo-erotic content, it's length, it's remarkable CGI effects, it's color palette, etc., just makes the critic appear petty and bitter.
So, if you and Victor want to continue digging around in the Film Asylum sandbox, either as playful children or impatient felines dependent upon what you're trying to accomplish, then Roxanne and/or I will gladly sift through it, with kid gloves if necessary, and address any inappropriate deposits.
AuPh
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Follow Ups
- Yep! - Audiophilander 11:50:37 01/28/04 (20)
- Re: Yep! - patrickU 01:26:53 01/29/04 (11)
- "Hollywood do makes movies for profit only (99%) others makes them for artistic values..." - LOL! - Audiophilander 09:51:17 01/29/04 (10)
- Re: That is censorship! If you cite, do it with the full text! - patrickU 10:42:01 01/29/04 (0)
- The old and tired America-centric view point - Victor Khomenko 10:11:45 01/29/04 (8)
- "America has it's unique taste, and we should admit, in many areas it is not the best." - Audiophilander 11:34:29 01/29/04 (7)
- You are again confusing the revenues with quality - Victor Khomenko 12:06:41 01/29/04 (6)
- "...what sells most is usually not what is synonimous with high quality." - LOL! - Audiophilander 17:28:12 01/29/04 (5)
- Thank you for making it clear... - Victor Khomenko 17:32:16 01/29/04 (4)
- Re: Victor you have been so deliciously slow..... - patrickU 06:05:54 01/30/04 (2)
- I am sure it will collect huge crowds - another great achievement in the world of cinema! - Victor Khomenko 06:23:52 01/30/04 (1)
- Re: I am sure it will collect huge crowds - another great achievement in the world of cinema! - Audiophilander 10:13:29 01/30/04 (0)
- Wow! So, the game gets a little rough and now you wanna take your bats and go home, right? - Audiophilander 23:20:33 01/29/04 (0)
- Re: Yep! - Roxanne 14:45:54 01/28/04 (7)
- Re: ::::......Go to sleep and wake up when the end credits roll... - patrickU 01:29:44 01/29/04 (5)
- Re: ::::......Go to sleep and wake up when the end credits roll... - Victor Khomenko 06:30:04 01/29/04 (4)
- Re: ::::......Go to sleep and wake up when the end credits roll... - patrickU 06:42:03 01/29/04 (3)
- LOL! I am sure she is! - Victor Khomenko 07:01:32 01/29/04 (2)
- Re: LOL! I am sure she is! - patrickU 07:12:19 01/29/04 (1)
- Re: LOL! I am sure she is! - Victor Khomenko 08:23:26 01/29/04 (0)
- Hee, hee, true enough; BTW, before Victor hops on the mustard issue, ...I prefer spicy to Grey Poupon! (nt) - Audiophilander 15:49:59 01/28/04 (0)