In Reply to: Re: So much thought being wasted on this children's sword and sorcery fantasy.... posted by patrickU on January 29, 2004 at 01:38:38:
Both films are excellent in their own ways; the former may be more artistic and original, but the latter is more enjoyable on repeated viewings. Of my 500 or so DVDs, The Magnificent Seven is in my film library, but The Seven Samurai is not. In the long run, both of these films will have their place in the pantheon of film classics, but there's no reason to insult The Magnificent Seven because it reached a more mainstream audience than The Seven Samurai; it just makes the critic appear petty and elitist. If you still want to make it into an issue of taste, go ahead and eat your Russian fish eggs; I'll stick with a good ol' juicy homemade American hamburger anyday!I'd rather not get into Bergman, your preference for Wild Strawberrys notwithstanding. He's certainly a great film-maker (i.e., for instance, I happen to have the Criterion DVD version The Seventh Seal in my collection), but his films aren't something I would screen at a film party in my home unless I was subtly trying to let folks know it was time to leave. John Huston turned out a number of remarkable films, but I think a movie like The Treasure of Sierra Madre is probably a better example than The Dead.
I appreciate Dalton's comments about LoTR even though I somewhat disagree with his assessment that it's a "children's sword and sorcery fantasy" because I'm of the opinion that it's so much more even if it isn't on a par with Tolkien's novels, and besides, that isn't even the dominent emphasis of the films or the author's works. If I were to point toward any of Tolkien's books as children's fantasy, it would probably be The Hobbit, which was intended for younger readers.
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Follow Ups
- Good example: I've seen both The Seven Samurai & The Magnificent Seven, the American west version. - Audiophilander 08:05:09 01/29/04 (25)
- Re: NO NO AND NO! - patrickU 08:52:21 01/29/04 (9)
- Should I put my affairs in order? - Audiophilander 09:41:59 01/29/04 (8)
- Re:Yes, you are a deseperated case..Time to say good bye.... - patrickU 10:31:14 01/29/04 (0)
- That is easy - Victor Khomenko 09:51:14 01/29/04 (6)
- Re: That is easy / Victor.... - patrickU 10:33:36 01/29/04 (0)
- Bogus argument, and here's why: - Audiophilander 10:06:16 01/29/04 (4)
- Re: And WHY one may ask you did NOT ????? nt - patrickU 10:35:43 01/29/04 (3)
- Because my katana became dull just being in the same room Seven Samurai was showing! (nt) - Audiophilander 12:47:15 01/29/04 (2)
- Re: Send it over to me.... - patrickU 13:10:22 01/29/04 (1)
- Sorry, Mssr. Guillotine, but... - Audiophilander 22:03:15 01/29/04 (0)
- Re: Good example: I've seen both The Seven Samurai & The Magnificent Seven, the American west version. - Victor Khomenko 08:17:41 01/29/04 (14)
- "She got bored with it..." - Tokien's LoTR novels may take a lot more work than some folks are willing to commit. - Audiophilander 08:47:22 01/29/04 (13)
- Dodging the point - Victor Khomenko 08:52:10 01/29/04 (12)
- "It is commonly called a children's book..." - By whom? You, perhaps? Now THAT's an unbiased source. LOL! - Audiophilander 10:35:19 01/29/04 (11)
- Now you are sliding completely - Victor Khomenko 11:21:35 01/29/04 (10)
- Re: W & P and..LOTR..... - patrickU 13:42:34 01/29/04 (2)
- But you are forgetting the target audience... - Victor Khomenko 13:46:02 01/29/04 (1)
- No, the "target audience" (i.e., folks of all ages who still have a sense of wonder) has forgotten you! (nt) - Audiophilander 21:59:16 01/29/04 (0)
- That's because I'm pullin' on one end of the rope while you're on the other goin' under for the 30th time! - Audiophilander 12:29:46 01/29/04 (6)
- LOL! That sez plenty of those "young adults" - Victor Khomenko 12:41:45 01/29/04 (5)
- "I didn't say anything about their age, ..." - Now that's a weaselly response if ever I read one. - Audiophilander 13:19:01 01/29/04 (4)
- Your mama should have taught you... - Victor Khomenko 13:43:04 01/29/04 (3)
- The irony of your making ... - Audiophilander 15:58:04 01/29/04 (2)
- Re: The irony of your making ... - Victor Khomenko 16:20:18 01/29/04 (1)
- Object away, the LoTR films & books are neither naive, poorly made, nor, strictly speaking, a children's opus. - Audiophilander 17:14:15 01/29/04 (0)