In Reply to: Age of innocence was crap... posted by RGA on May 30, 2005 at 14:35:49:
Sorry this is a bit jumpy, but I am responding to RGA's comments as they have been posted.While I agree that Scorcese's "Age of Innocence" is one of his weaker films, I am surprised that you indicate that a theatrical re-release is the standard-bearer for a film that "stands the test of time." If that were so, where would you place "The Magnificent Ambersons," "Intolerance," or "Rules of the Game," which have depended on the art-house theatre and/or home video (TV, pay-channels, TCM, etc.), and have not had the major theatrical re-release of "Star Wars," and "E.T.: the Extra-Terrestrial"?
"Goodfellas"? A fun ride, but nothing like the "Mob Soap opera" (you seem to like this phrase a lot) "The Godfather," with its deeper metaphorical look at both American business and American families.
And what is wrong with "deep thinking film criticism in little one line snippet comments"? Pauline Kael got started doing the same thing, writing short reviews for flyers to be passed out at the art-house theatres she managed. Even James Agee wrote capsule reviews!
If you want deep-dish film criticism in longer form, I recommend "Sight and Sound," or "Cahiers du Cinema."You have stated before that you are a teaching student. The next time you make a suggestion about someone else's schedule, perhaps you will also decide to take a class or two in grammar...punctuation is a wonderful thing!
You really unleashed quite a barrage of invective at tinear, and while I disagree with some of what he said (and where is "Who's That Knocking at my Door?" and "Boxcar Bertha"?) and agree with some of the points of your criticism (how "good" is Lear or Macbeth?), the whiny angry tone you use here is hardly necessary. Did I miss the post where tinear insults you personally?
BTW, "Death of a Salesman" is NOT "based on the great American novel." Oh, and it's "ala," not "alla."
You also seem a little contradictory: you say you want to judge a film on just its merits, but when suggesting how film should be used in classes you strongly recommending a contextual basis for looking at films. Why do you think your fellow students may have problems judging a film on just its merits like you say you do?
Just curious, what do you want to teach?
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Follow Ups
- Re: Please put your dukes down, RGA! - Gee LP 18:14:31 05/30/05 (37)
- That was quite good - Victor Khomenko 18:31:07 05/30/05 (36)
- Re:It ain't yer commas, Victor, it's yer apostrophes! - Gee LP 21:57:04 05/30/05 (35)
- Straw dogs, anyone? I did not - tinear 09:07:27 05/31/05 (6)
- Re: Straw dogs, anyone? I did not - jamesgarvin 10:28:28 05/31/05 (5)
- And yet another straw dog: is there a - tinear 15:15:50 05/31/05 (4)
- Re: And yet another straw dog: is there a - jamesgarvin 15:42:26 05/31/05 (3)
- You are one slippery guy. Do you unconsciously - tinear 06:19:02 06/01/05 (2)
- There does not NEED to be a redeeming value in a character! - RGA 15:11:27 06/14/05 (0)
- Re: You are one slippery guy. Do you unconsciously - jamesgarvin 06:35:37 06/01/05 (0)
- Re:It ain't yer commas, Victor, it's yer apostrophes! - Victor Khomenko 06:21:55 05/31/05 (0)
- Re:It ain't yer commas, Victor, it's yer apostrophes! - RGA 22:12:32 05/30/05 (26)
- Re: Thanks for your response, RGA! - Gee LP 00:53:24 05/31/05 (25)
- Re: Thanks for your response, RGA! - RGA 14:41:36 05/31/05 (1)
- Re: Actually, Shakespeare's plots aren't that revolutionalry - Gee LP 15:53:45 05/31/05 (0)
- "Shakespeare is not incredibly deep." - tinear 09:11:37 05/31/05 (22)
- Well if he's incredibly deep I guess I'm with Mr. Shaw on this one. NT - RGA 14:50:59 05/31/05 (8)
- Re: ROTFLMAO! - Gee LP 16:01:24 05/31/05 (7)
- Re: ROTFLMAO! - patrickU 10:04:28 06/02/05 (5)
- "Shaw couldn't even come up with the right ending for "Pygmalion"" - orejones 10:34:29 06/02/05 (4)
- Re: Liza marries Freddie the dolt! Good heavens, no! - Gee LP 22:44:28 06/02/05 (0)
- Re: "Shaw couldn't even come up with the right ending for "Pygmalion"" - patrickU 11:10:59 06/02/05 (2)
- Not a play, but a Greek myth: look at the link... - orejones 11:20:44 06/02/05 (1)
- Re: Not a play, but a Greek myth: look at the link... - patrickU 05:31:12 06/03/05 (0)
- Sure but look at Romeo and Juliet... - RGA 16:31:49 05/31/05 (0)
- Re: "Shakespeare is magic " nt - patrickU 12:14:07 05/31/05 (12)
- Re: "Shakespeare is magic " - Gee LP 13:45:40 05/31/05 (11)
- Shakespeare is rightly considered the father of - tinear 15:21:01 05/31/05 (7)
- Re: Shakespeare is rightly considered the father of - RGA 16:35:06 05/31/05 (0)
- Re: Why I quoted that instructor's comment - Gee LP 15:39:25 05/31/05 (5)
- You forgot to include Sir John Gielgud in your list: his "Lear" is chilling, to say the least..." - orejones 10:43:17 06/02/05 (1)
- Re: You forgot to include Sir John Gielgud in your list: his "Lear" is chilling, to say the least..." - Gee LP 22:54:37 06/02/05 (0)
- My university - RGA 16:39:34 05/31/05 (2)
- Correction - RGA 16:44:28 05/31/05 (1)
- Re: Correction - patrickU 05:18:36 06/01/05 (0)
- Re: "Shakespeare is magic " - patrickU 14:15:31 05/31/05 (2)
- Re: Well said, patrickU - Gee LP 15:43:48 05/31/05 (1)
- Re: Merci. - patrickU 04:10:37 06/01/05 (0)