|
Films/DVD Asylum Movies from comedy to drama to your favorite Hollyweird Star. |
|
|
|
Films/DVD Asylum Movies from comedy to drama to your favorite Hollyweird Star. |
|
In Reply to: Re: Actually, I don;t see a lot of debunking so far... posted by Ears on December 25, 2006 at 02:38:56:
This film shows video footage in slow motion frames that no plane hit the building except an explosion. They argue that the plane hit light poles which were knocked over on the freeway which had apparently no effect on the plane...nor was there any damage to grass around the the site. Their argument was that small pieces of debris were planted and that the shape of the engine ring do not match up with the shape of the parts shown in the picture. they do not argue issue about size of the engine.They argue that the government claims the plain bounced off of the ground before it hit the building - yet there were no marks on the ground.
They argue the pilot was below average and could barely fly a cesna. They argue that flight 77 knocked down 5 light poles and continued on unscathed where another plane's wing hit one and was sheered clean off. The initial news reports all claim that it did not look like a plane crashed into the Pentagon or that that there were any plane parts. so they were not there at first but showed up later? They argue that the governments esplanation was that the intense heat vaporized the entire plane - which is why there were no large pieces. The filmaker argues that if it was hot enough to completely vaporize the plane then how could they identify the bodies of 184 of the 189 passangers? I note that if it can vaporize steel so too can it vaporize teeth.
They argue that the plane was using the Rolls Royce engine that is in the link you provided. They argue that the Titanium's melting point is 1688 degrees celcius and that jet fuel is 1120 degrees if the fuel source is maintained after 40 minutes. They argue that it is scientifically impossible for 12 tons of steel and titanium to be vaporized by jet fuel.
The film argues that an expert at Honeywell's aerospace division (on anonymity) who makes the APU for this plane argues that the piece found is definitely not an APU Wheel. The American Free Press also contacted Rolls Royce's Spokesperson John Brown and he said that it "is not a part from any Rolls Royce Engine that I'm familiar with and certainly not the AE 3007H made here at Indy.
They also argue that the one piece of fusselage is not singed or identifiable to this particular aircraft.
The defuser case they take issue with as well. They argue that there are none of the triangular bezzles around the openings which are not on the defuser case.
They argue that if it vaporized on impact it would be the first time in aviation history. They look at 2005's crash in Greece where a plane hit a hillside head on and yet all the major pieces were found, tail section, wings, engines and bodies. They argue that there is no way this plane created this little damage to the outer wall of the Pentagon squezzing into a 16 foot wide hole - no major parts of the plane found and no damage to where the wings hit the walls. They argue that the windows directly beside the hole where the plane's wings and engines would have barreled into them at 500mph should have been damaged. They show the trajectory of the plane and the hole created and superimpose the plane over the hole and it is pretty clear that if a plane this big hit this building there should at least be a mark where the 6 ton engines would at least put a dent in the building.
They suspect a more logical case would be a cruise missile. They show an image of Misvalich's place which was hit by such a missile and it looks very similar indeed. They argue that eyewitness accounts were all quite different from an American airlines plane to a commuter plane to a US Military helicopter.
They argue that witnesses said that they smelled cordite which is not the same as jet fuel. Witness say that the explosion had a silvery flash and they argue jet fuel would be bright yellow at best. They argue that people inside felt a shock wave that a plane crash does not create. The three video cameras from a gas station, Hilton and one other building had their tapes taken away and employees told not to say anything. The filmaker simply asks -- show us the video of the plane hitting the building. He argues that the government released one video of 5 frames and none of those show a boeing hit the building -- all it shows is an explosion -- something that big would have shown up on these frames -- I mean not showing the video to me seems really bizarre.
I mean it's one thing to end the conspiracy debate -- and yet? They argue that building 7 of all the buildings surrounding the towers conveneintly fell down -- all those 3000-4000 files of Wall Street investigations.
They argue that building 7 would be the third building in history to fall down from a fire - the first two being the twin tower buildings. They cite The Empire State Building was hit by a B52 Bomber in the 79th floor - and it dod not come down. They cite several other buildings which had massive multi-floor fires and none of them came down.
Now who really knows if these filmmakers are totally correct but when the government does not really make the evidence visible and they don't really offer up evidence that is clear they look like they're hiding something. They could so easily clear these things up and yet they let the door wide open for questions. Does asking questions about your government truly mean you are lefty communist conspiracy nut? Knocking a few holes in the conspiracy theories still does not make all the pins go down.
This film seems to avoid most of the Popular mechanics issues - or vice versa.
Either way the film is well made and quite effective even if it does in fact turn out to be wrong. Kinda like Michael Moore flicks.
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors:
Follow Ups
- Re: Actually, I don;t see a lot of debunking so far... - RGA 04:28:03 12/25/06 (0)
Top of Page ]
[ Contact Us ]
[ Support/Wish List ]
[ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
