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In Reply to: What the heck???? Attack the acting, the plot, whatever, but the action, specifically the posted by tinear on January 29, 2012 at 20:14:35:
"fights, were the best, PERIOD."
No, they were terrible
"The woman is a legitimate star in full contact martial arts contests:"
Yes she is, as are many of the actors and stunt doubles one finds in any number of other film fights.
"there is no FAKEY speeding up: you're seeing fights in real time, with real sounds."
No you are not seeing them in real time. They are edited and shot from different angles after being choreographed and rehearsed. there is nothing real about it. It is stage fighting.
"You probably are so used to the Bourne and other CGI-assisted stuff that you don't know what REAL is supposed to be."
No, as a fan of real martial arts and filmed martial arts I know what I am looking at. In this case it is poorly shot, poorly choreographed and sadly, poorly executed fight scenes that were stilted and boring. A pretty hard combination to achieve in this genre.
"She did all her own stunts. She's the real deal. She's eat Damon, Craig, Diesel, and the Transporter guy in one painful (for them) sequence."
Yeah she's the real deal. But that clearly wasn't enough. Oh and by the way, there have been plenty of vastly superior martial artists in any number of other fight scenes in other movies. She is pretty far from exceptional. It all looked fake. There were gross problems in the execution of the choreography, It was shot and edited piss poorly. The choreography was boring and at the same time comically contrived.
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Follow Ups
- The fight scenes sucked - Analog Scott 09:34:58 01/30/12 (13)
- I said in "real time." Quite different from your reading. We'll just disagree about - tinear 17:10:25 01/31/12 (5)
- RE: I said in "real time." Quite different from your reading. We'll just disagree about - Analog Scott 00:16:54 02/01/12 (4)
- Chuck Norris? Oh, c'mon. If anything, Chuck lowered the bar for fight scenes. You think Craig, btw, is more - tinear 13:18:10 02/01/12 (3)
- you asked a specific question and I gave you an answer. - Analog Scott 14:10:30 02/01/12 (2)
- Just stop. You've been Tinned...it's like being Rick Rolled only Tin goes on longer. - Enophile 16:51:36 02/01/12 (1)
- LOL - Analog Scott 18:23:30 02/01/12 (0)
- Speaking as a fight scene aficionado... - Enophile 18:42:39 01/30/12 (4)
- "favorite fight scene performers" - oldmkvi 11:00:21 01/31/12 (0)
- RE: Speaking as a fight scene aficionado... - Analog Scott 19:04:40 01/30/12 (2)
- Yeah, Steve Soderbergh is such a crummy cinematographer and editor, AS. Righto! nt - tinear 13:08:45 02/01/12 (1)
- In this case yes - Analog Scott 13:32:44 02/01/12 (0)
- What they had... - mkuller 11:07:32 01/30/12 (1)
- in reality - Analog Scott 11:19:30 01/30/12 (0)
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