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Re: Wholly mackerel! ;o) Talk about fryin' bigger fish:

First, propaganda in movies in not big news to me, as you yourself had suggested. But there are a couple of points here. First - we are definitely seeing the spread of agenda-driven trash presented to us here in the US like never before. Triumph of the Will and others in that genre were transparent works. Today we are seeing much smarter approach and it appears to be largely the American phenomenon.

Second - it was YOU who used the social agenda of that weak work as a proof of its director's talent. That was the only prase of that film that you mentioned.

Regardless of how many words you dump on me, that point is still indefensible and is not getting any more solid. Your applauding a film where two - yes, bimbos - "challenge" the established society routines is quite typical and I thought by now was mostly forgotten. And your fine examples (Ms. Brooks) nothwithstanding I still see your enthusiasm for T&L as demeaning to women, as your admiration for the two low life characters shows what your vision of a "new free woman" is. It ain't pretty.

Your characterization of Ms. Loy is completely unjustified and yes, she could more than just hold the candle to the constant stream of female idiots that grace today's American screen. To you this is unacceptable because she didn't quite challenge the establishment, to me she simply presents the best there is in both men and women.

You seem to be under impression that wearing your agenda on your sleeve is good for this nation - I disagree. That film you like so much - the dreaded T&L - is quite representative of the fodder we feed our society. It is hard to say whether the general moral decay is the result of such movies or vise versa, but they are closely linked. I simply refuse to go with you in the direction where movies raise the worst in human beings. I have seen enough films that make me think and - I shall use that cliche here, pardon me - want me to become better, to not accept the T&L trash's right to exist.

***That's nonsense! Censorship or repression of adult prurient interests

What sensorship have you spotted anywhere here beside the good taste and refusal to watch trash?


***is just as demeaning as patting a woman on the head and dismissing her to a sewing circle while the men folk retire to the study, smoke cigars and discuss politics! Is that the kind of Conservative world-view you wish pandered to by the film community? I sure don't!

Jeez, that explains most of your approach. This sentence is sooooooooooo dated and silly even my dog would see it for what it is. Are these the kind of stereotypes you live with? This is just pure liberal bunk and...... for the twentieth time....

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DIRECTOR'S TALENT!!!!!!!!



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