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In Reply to: Bruce, you should know better than to blow coke in a crowded thater; it's waaaay too public! ;^) posted by Audiophilander on January 23, 2002 at 15:54:22:
Wasn't in a theatre, AuPh. Was at home, watching teevee.Face it, AuPh, you're a sucker for sci-fi. So am I but not quite as much. All of the "Alien" movies relied too much on two operations: (1) "where is the monster now?!! and (2) "I thought the monster was dead!!!" That's why I got bored. Also the yucky, gooey stuff. Lots of yucky gooey stuff -- the eggs, the worm coming out of the guy's abdomen. Reminded me of the monkey's brains and eyes in the 2nd Indiana Jones flick (the really sick one, IMHO).
For me T&L just jumps the tracks. Butch Cassidy and The Sting are what I call "goof" movies. They're just a good-time goof. You watch 'em with a beer in hand and one eye open, with your arm on your honey's shoulder.
I could certainly accept the idea of a female goof movie. In fact, I would readily pay to see one that's as well-executed as "Butch" or especially "Sting."
But T&L isn't really a goof movie although at first you think its gonna be. Its bleeping serious. But these gals respond to their problems in a totally adolescent way (trust me, I know adolescents, I own two of em. Actually, one is 20+, so she's moved out of adolescent territory, bless her little heart.) See, AuPh, one of my big beefs with American movies generally is the skew towards the adolescent audience, even with non-adolescent actors (believe me, Susan Sarandon, who is my age, is way far from adolescence), non adolescent characters and non-adolescent stories and themes. One of the ways this skew manifests itself is that the characters respond to problems and situations like adolescents.
For that reason, I'm a sucker for contemporary movies where people actually behave like adults, regardless of their other merits or lack thereof. For example, the current "Shipping News" or the not-too-old "Horse Whisperer."
I mentioned "All about Eve" as a grown-up movie about a woman with similar problems. Another example that comes to mind is Ingrid Bergman in "Notorious." Women in a box, who refuse to stay there.
I have a vague recollection of Duellists -- I might take your suggestion and check it out.
BTW, you should definitely see "Gosford Park." Altman -- now there is a director -- doing what he does best, which is very, very good. Congruent with your politics, too; although I can't really disagree.
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- Re: Bruce, you should know better than to blow coke in a crowded thater; it's waaaay too public! ;^) - Bruce from DC 16:32:14 01/23/02 (0)
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