Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments....

Posted by AbeCollins (A) on April 30, 2024 at 10:05:39

In Reply to: RE: Ha! I'm sure Ferenc will provide more detail ;-) posted by ferenc@mediaengineering.hu on April 28, 2024 at 00:30:20:

Thanks for your reply Ferenc. I hope you are not annoyed with the several follow up questions. I can understand if you might prefer to address them in another conversation with Rushton for possible publication.

[Abe]: For clarity I wish to keep the network streamer and DAC as separate items even though we know of products that incorporate both in a single chassis.

[Ferenc]: "But dozens of other reasons LOCALLY, mostly in the analog domain of different audio subsystems in the streamers, dacs, etc. The last few meters is the most important of the long data chain."

[Abe]: When you say "mostly in the analog domain" are you talking specifically about truly analog subsystems like the analog output section of a DAC and the analog components downstream like the preamp and amp? Anything else?

[Abe]: What do you include in these "last few meters" of the long data chain you mention above?

[Ferenc]: "From a strictly information technology POV there is a good chance that the 100 USD and 30k USD streamer would "sound" theoretically the same, but their noise signature, generated noises, noise isolation can be very different, and they will not sound the same of course IN an audio SYSTEM."

[Abe]: I can agree with the "noise" part of your comment but in the grand scheme of things does this "noise" below a certain level in the streamer even matter given the input reclocking and signal conditioning taking place in the digital domain within modern DACs before analog output?

[Ferenc]: "Most of the digital (data) communication happens in the analog domain."

[Abe]: You lost me here. Please elaborate. And we're still talking LOCALLY right?

[Ferenc]: "So the analog parts of any digital system are crucial and effected by analog problems."

[Abe]: Can you be more specific? Your reply is ambiguous to me. What analog parts of the digital system?

Thanks!

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Topic - Sample files to compare streaming services - Rushton 11:28:27 04/26/24 (28)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - Rushton 09:06:34 04/28/24 (8)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - AbeCollins 09:58:29 04/30/24 (7)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - Koscso Media Engineering 23:05:13 05/01/24 (0)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - Rushton 11:15:04 04/30/24 (5)

Actually... - E-Stat 12:55:09 05/02/24 (4)

Depends on who you ask I suppose.... - AbeCollins 14:02:25 05/02/24 (3)

RE: Depends on who you ask I suppose.... - Koscso Media Engineering 23:30:43 05/02/24 (1)

+1 Good choice of words to describe the difference. Thanks! -nt - AbeCollins 20:38:59 05/04/24 (0)

I choose - E-Stat 14:18:03 05/02/24 (0)

Interesting article - thanks! - AbeCollins 10:49:54 04/27/24 (18)

RE: Interesting article - thanks! - Rushton 11:40:42 04/27/24 (5)

Agreed - E-Stat 07:30:26 04/28/24 (3)

RE: Agreed - AbeCollins 15:20:02 04/29/24 (2)

Ok - E-Stat 15:40:02 04/29/24 (1)

RE: Ok - AbeCollins 10:09:26 04/30/24 (0)

I read it differently but.... - AbeCollins 14:47:53 04/27/24 (0)

RE: Interesting article - thanks! - Rushton 11:25:07 04/27/24 (11)

Ha! I'm sure Ferenc will provide more detail ;-) - AbeCollins 14:56:07 04/27/24 (10)

RE: Ha! I'm sure Ferenc will provide more detail ;-) - ferenc@mediaengineering.hu 00:30:20 04/28/24 (9)

Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - AbeCollins 10:05:39 04/30/24 (7)

RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - Koscso Media Engineering 05:16:37 05/02/24 (0)

RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - Koscso Media Engineering 01:19:40 05/01/24 (5)

Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 07:46:45 05/01/24 (3)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 09:30:33 05/01/24 (2)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 10:23:59 05/01/24 (1)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 10:35:42 05/01/24 (0)

This is what - E-Stat 06:09:00 05/01/24 (0)

This is my experience - E-Stat 08:05:28 04/28/24 (0)

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Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - AbeCollins 10:05:39 04/30/24 (7)

RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - Koscso Media Engineering 05:16:37 05/02/24 (0)

RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - Koscso Media Engineering 01:19:40 05/01/24 (5)

Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 07:46:45 05/01/24 (3)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 09:30:33 05/01/24 (2)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 10:23:59 05/01/24 (1)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 10:35:42 05/01/24 (0)

This is what - E-Stat 06:09:00 05/01/24 (0)

Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments....

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