Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts.....

Posted by AbeCollins (A) on May 1, 2024 at 07:46:45

In Reply to: RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... posted by Koscso Media Engineering on May 1, 2024 at 01:19:40:

Thanks Ferenc. I understand much of what you are saying but we don't have to agree completely on the impact on final sound quality.

-- The 'analog process' [toward digital] that you mention in Ethernet, IT/IP infrastructure, number of hops, RJ45 ports, etc is understood but irrelevant to final sound quality UNLESS the resulting digital bits become marginal, lost, or flipped - which does not occur unless there is something very very wrong. Some might call this a "bits are bits" mentality but how often are the bits so corrupt that your DAC loses lock or your streamer / music server crashes? It doesn't happen. They generally work or they don't.

-- I understand the complexity of the noise generated in digital environments including conducted and radiated noise. We don't have a lot of control over this as all digital devices generate some noise. The real question becomes to what extent does a user 'hear' or notice the impact to final sound quality? This area is ripe for audiophile snake oil companies and salesmen to take advantage. And they DO !!

Circling back to my original thought about streamers & DACs I will once again say that properly functioning network streamers have insignificant impact on sound quality COMPARED TO the DAC. And again, some companies use the same DIY hobby Raspberry Pi computer at the heart of their streamer in their pricey products - Bryston & Boulder are just two examples. Which circles back to my comment that $100 USD DIY Raspberry Pi streamers can be just as good as $30K USD magazine recommended and "audiophile approved" brands.

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Topic - Sample files to compare streaming services - Rushton 11:28:27 04/26/24 (28)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - Rushton 09:06:34 04/28/24 (8)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - AbeCollins 09:58:29 04/30/24 (7)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - Koscso Media Engineering 23:05:13 05/01/24 (0)

RE: Sample files to compare streaming services - Rushton 11:15:04 04/30/24 (5)

Actually... - E-Stat 12:55:09 05/02/24 (4)

Depends on who you ask I suppose.... - AbeCollins 14:02:25 05/02/24 (3)

RE: Depends on who you ask I suppose.... - Koscso Media Engineering 23:30:43 05/02/24 (1)

+1 Good choice of words to describe the difference. Thanks! -nt - AbeCollins 20:38:59 05/04/24 (0)

I choose - E-Stat 14:18:03 05/02/24 (0)

Interesting article - thanks! - AbeCollins 10:49:54 04/27/24 (18)

RE: Interesting article - thanks! - Rushton 11:40:42 04/27/24 (5)

Agreed - E-Stat 07:30:26 04/28/24 (3)

RE: Agreed - AbeCollins 15:20:02 04/29/24 (2)

Ok - E-Stat 15:40:02 04/29/24 (1)

RE: Ok - AbeCollins 10:09:26 04/30/24 (0)

I read it differently but.... - AbeCollins 14:47:53 04/27/24 (0)

RE: Interesting article - thanks! - Rushton 11:25:07 04/27/24 (11)

Ha! I'm sure Ferenc will provide more detail ;-) - AbeCollins 14:56:07 04/27/24 (10)

RE: Ha! I'm sure Ferenc will provide more detail ;-) - ferenc@mediaengineering.hu 00:30:20 04/28/24 (9)

Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - AbeCollins 10:05:39 04/30/24 (7)

RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - Koscso Media Engineering 05:16:37 05/02/24 (0)

RE: Thank you. Will you please clarify these comments.... - Koscso Media Engineering 01:19:40 05/01/24 (5)

Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 07:46:45 05/01/24 (3)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 09:30:33 05/01/24 (2)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 10:23:59 05/01/24 (1)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 10:35:42 05/01/24 (0)

This is what - E-Stat 06:09:00 05/01/24 (0)

This is my experience - E-Stat 08:05:28 04/28/24 (0)

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Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 07:46:45 05/01/24 (3)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 09:30:33 05/01/24 (2)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - AbeCollins 10:23:59 05/01/24 (1)

RE: Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts..... - Koscso Media Engineering 10:35:42 05/01/24 (0)

Thanks Ferenc. My final thoughts.....

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