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In Reply to: "poor Hitler" Your employment of sarcasm to counter my argument... posted by clarkjohnsen on June 11, 2005 at 07:59:28:
So one word of sarcasm renders my argument specious, eh?I thought I was polite in my response when you wrote: "Many historians now believe Japan was suckered into doing Pearl Harbor. Germany followed their partner, as was to be expected." After all, if your statement is true, aren't the Japanese Imperial Navy suckers and Adolph Hitler a good partner who found himself in a poor situation because of this partnership?
Actually, your original argument (one I have seen you use several times on "Outside") about President Bush being justified in going to war with Iraq because of FDR's naval military orders from February 1941 on is quite interesting, and can be appreciated by students of military history. Thank you for reminding me of these orders. Perhaps one day in "Outside" we shall write at length about them.
But when you call the December 11th declarations of war between the United States and Germany "fanciful," and then introduce a new argument about suckered Japan and good-partner Germany (this is not sarcasm, it is how you characterized these nations), I have to say, "I disagree with this statement and these characterizations."
You say one word of sarcasm, which could just as well be read as a God's-honest-truth adjective given the results of the situation, diminishes my argument to the vanishing point. Oh, well.So, will you answer my question now, Clark? Saying "Many historians now believe..." without qualifying or countering suggests that you agree with these historians. Do you disagree with the statement "many historians now believe..." that you wrote earlier? Or...
Do you think the Japanese were suckers and the Germans were just good partners?
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Follow Ups
- Re: "poor Hitler" Your employment of sarcasm to counter my argument... - Gee LP 18:47:03 06/11/05 (4)
- "So one word of sarcasm renders my argument specious, eh?" No. - clarkjohnsen 08:57:57 06/13/05 (3)
- Re: I'm surprised you now say "No." - Gee LP 18:45:29 06/13/05 (2)
- "Clark, next time you want to lick Nazi boots and kiss Japanese ass, go right ahead." See what I mean? - clarkjohnsen 10:52:47 06/14/05 (1)
- Re: Yes, the end today. - Gee LP 14:49:25 06/14/05 (0)
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